How good is Marquez?

[firstborn]

Pac has been on a good roll since he last fought Marquez, he's made it look easy while running through his opponents, Oscar, Hatton now Cotto. Despite the outcome of their two fights, it seems like Marquez was the last person to really give Pac a run for his money.

Has Pac grown that much as a fighter since they last fought or is it that Marquez's style happens to give Pac trouble.

[talip bin osman]

Pac has been on a good roll since he last fought Marquez, he's made it look easy while running through his opponents, Oscar, Hatton now Cotto. Despite the outcome of their two fights, it seems like Marquez was the last person to really give Pac a run for his money.

Has Pac grown that much as a fighter since they last fought or is it that Marquez's style happens to give Pac trouble.

its probably a combination of both...

but as of present?

specially if a 3rd fight is to be made for them @ 145-147?

& JMM being 37 years old?

i say MP finally beats him convincingly...

[bojangles1987]

At that weight Marquez was the perfect counter for Pacquiao, and how we saw the first two fights go down is exactly how it would go down every time. However, the Morales and Marquez fights absolutely attributed to Pac's growth and you can definitely see the technical improvements Pac has made to his once caveman lunging style.

[ßringer]

Stylistically ; Pacquiao is damn near the same fighter now, that he was when he rematched Marquez. The only difference is that he's carried his power up in weight with him, and his right hand is a little more refined.

How good is marquez? Damn good. But too small physically to be able to compete with anybody at 147 and maybe even 140, as he looked to be pushing his body to the limit with his 2 fights at 135.

If Manny and Juan Manuel mixed it up once again at 147, or 145, or even 140 ; I don't think Marquez would have enough on his punches to really do anything to Manny, at this point. He's just too small to support that extra weight.

but if Manny dropped to 135 and they had their 3rd fight there ; Marquez would give him fits, once again.

[Spray_resistant]

its probably a combination of both...

but as of present?

specially if a 3rd fight is to be made for them @ 145-147?

& JMM being 37 years old?

i say MP finally beats him convincingly...

Most likely.....JMM was closer to his prime in about 04-06, while Manny was still developing as a fighter.....He would most likely ko a JMM on the downslide at this point, though he is still very good......JMM should just go beat up Katsidis and maybe fight Campbell or possibly get a fight with Bradley.

[nachorjj]

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[ßringer]

Most likely.....JMM was closer to his prime in about 04-06, while Manny was still developing as a fighter.....He would most likely ko a JMM on the downslide at this point, though he is still very good......JMM should just go beat up Katsidis and maybe fight Campbell or possibly get a fight with Bradley.

Marquez is definitely past his prime now, but I disagree about 04-06 being his "prime years".

If that was the case, hw the hell did he do so good against Pacquiao in the rematch in 2008? Let alone move up in weight and stop Casamayor and Juan Diaz ; 2 guys who'd never been stopped before.

[Syf]

Stylistically ; Pacquiao is damn near the same fighter now, that he was when he rematched Marquez.

not really..

not as wild. doesn't punch with his eyes closed anymore. Better defense. a little bit less speed..a lot more power.

less explosive,but more efficient and coordinated footwork.

He's a lot different nowadays, partly thanks to Roach molding him and partly due to him maturing as a fighter.

[oaba09]

At 147? He sucks! He doesn't belong at WW

He's a beast at 135 though.......

[Spray_resistant]

Marquez is definitely past his prime now, but I disagree about 04-06 being his "prime years".

If that was the case, hw the hell did he do so good against Pacquiao in the rematch in 2008? Let alone move up in weight and stop Casamayor and Juan Diaz ; 2 guys who'd never been stopped before.

Sometimes you don't get the bigger fights when your better.....he is just a tough fight for Pac because he is always looking for the counters though is busy due to Pac's constant offense. It makes for a good competitive fight....but a little older and maybe slower against someone who is better and stronger than before could result in a total mismatch this time around if it happened.