Pacquiao is a top 5 ATG.

[Pacdbest]

#1 - Stop with the "Chavez fought 100 taxi drivers" What matters is who he beat and he beat the best. Chavez is an ATG

#2 - DLH does not beat a prime Chavez. An old Chavez gave DLH a decent fight, a prime one beats him.

#3 - Pac beat up an old DLH, nothing close to the version that Chavez fought.

#4 - Leonard was in a much tougher division than Pac. Hagler and Hearns alone were ATG's and leonard beat them both. Name an ATG that Pac has beat in their prime?

#5 - Don't ever mention Ali and Pac in the same sentence. Ali fought in the greatest era of HW's of all time and came out on top. Ali revolutionized the game and was a global Icon and still is. Calm the *** down.

I love Pacman but this post goes so over the top it's insane....

I know truth hurts. But who's Prime HOfamer did Chavez Koed??? Can he tops Pac's DLH, Morales, MAB, JMM, hatton & Cotto?

I know Leonard has the tough opposition. But Pac has tougher list too. Pac has 2 HOF list. MAB, EM & JMM were the 1st storm. Then he has Hatton, Cotto & DLH on the 2nd storm. And Pac's not done yet. He still has the 3rd storm with PBF, Mosley & whoever has name.

Pac tops the greatest SF/ Feather weight era with MAB, EM & JMM. Now he's cleaning Welters with great names on the list. I haven't even mentioned his reign at 112-122. There's some decent names there too.

[NorvernRob]

But Duran was old already. He also Didn't Ko Duran, He just clown him in the rematch.

Pac-JMM was Close. But at least Pac makes him visit the canvas countless of times.

Morales also was never dropped before. But Pac did the impossible. That's why i rate Pac higher. He can do the impossible. Pac Stopping Hatton, Cotto & DLH were impossible scenario just year ago.

There's no doubt Pac is a phenominal fighter, I would say he's somewhere around 15 in the ATG list at present.

However unless you're a mad Pac fan there are question marks over all those last 3 wins. Hatton looks shot to pieces, DLH was dead on his feet, and Cotto looked slow and one dimensional as well as not impressing in his last couple of fights.

I'm not hating on Pac here as I love to watch him fight, but what he needs to do is beat Floyd. I don't give a **** if anyone says he doesn't have anything left to prove, because he does. The winner of that fight decides who is the best boxer of their generation.

The same goes for Floyd, already an ATG but Pac is the one name that would mean more than anyone else.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I know truth hurts. But who's Prime HOfamer did Chavez Koed??? Can he tops Pac's DLH, Morales, MAB, JMM, hatton & Cotto?

I know Leonard has the tough opposition. But Pac has tougher list too. Pac has 2 HOF list. MAB, EM & JMM were the 1st storm. Then he has Hatton, Cotto & DLH on the 2nd storm. And Pac's not done yet. He still has the 3rd storm with PBF, Mosley & whoever has name.

Pac tops the greatest SF/ Feather weight era with MAB, EM & JMM. Now he's cleaning Welters with great names on the list. I haven't even mentioned his reign at 112-122. There's some decent names there too.

Are you serious?

Chavez beat a prime Chapo Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Roger Mayweather, Meldrick Taylor, Lonnie Smith, Hector Camacho, Greg Haugen, Frankie Randall......to name a few. LOL

Pac fought Barerra, Morales, JMM and DLH on the down side of their careers. They were all over 30 when they fought and Morales beat him up.....

Pac is great but calm the *** down with the foolishness you are typing.

As far as Leonard, NOBODY had as much competition as Leonard did. Duran, Hearns and Hagler alone top the list of anything you can name.

[Pacdbest]

There's no doubt Pac is a phenominal fighter, I would say he's somewhere around 15 in the ATG list at present.

However unless you're a mad Pac fan there are question marks over all those last 3 wins. Hatton looks shot to pieces, DLH was dead on his feet, and Cotto looked slow and one dimensional as well as not impressing in his last couple of fights.

I'm not hating on Pac here as I love to watch him fight, but what he needs to do is beat Floyd. I don't give a **** if anyone says he doesn't have anything left to prove, because he does. The winner of that fight decides who is the best boxer of their generation.

The same goes for Floyd, already an ATG but Pac is the one name that would mean more than anyone else.

Did you notice that all Pac Big wins they all find excuses??? You know why??? Because Pac makes it look so easy!!!! ASk Floyd if DLH's easy??? Ask Mosley If Cotto's easy??

[Pacdbest]

Are you serious?

Chavez beat a prime Chapo Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Roger Mayweather, Meldrick Taylor, Lonnie Smith, Hector Camacho, Greg Haugen, Frankie Randall......to name a few. LOL

Pac fought Barerra, Morales, JMM and DLH on the down side of their careers. They were all over 30 when they fought and Morales beat him up.....

Pac is great but calm the *** down with the foolishness you are typing.

As far as Leonard, NOBODY had as much competition as Leonard did. Duran, Hearns and Hagler alone top the list of anything you can name.

Are those Chavez Victims higher than DLH, MAB, EM & JMM on atg ratings???

[Pacdbest]

Here's more past predictions!!!

04-01-2008, 03:12 PM #188
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Re: Pacquiao will take DLH for $30M minimum!!!!
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Originally Posted by pngo
I hope this fight happens so that Floyd would have no one else to fight BUT Cotto
That's what I want to happen. I don't want the DLH-PBF2 to take place. There's no demand for it. PBF asking more money than the 1st fight. Those 2.4M buyers was tricked, PBF promises action & KO but nothing like that came off the fight. It won't sell much & might not happen.

DLH wants to retire this year, I don't think it's good for him to reward PBF with another big Paycheck. He better give it to Pac who is part of his Promotion. Anything to pump up Pac's PPV numbers will benefit his own pocket in Pac's future fight.

Here's my projected Pac Path & purse split & PPV numbers:


Without DLH:
Pac-Diaz -Pac makes $6M/900K- PPV sales around 350-400K
Pac-JMM rematch- $8M/$2M-PPV sales 500K
Pac-Campbell/Casa- Pac $10M/$1.2M-PPV sales 500K+

With DLH:
Pac-Diaz -$6M/900K -350-400K
Pac-DLH- $30M/$40M+ -2M PPVs(win or lose)
Pac-JMM rematch- $15M/$3M - 600-700K
Pac-Casa/Camp/- $16M/$2M - 800K
Pac-Hatton- $25M/$20M- 1.5M PPV sales
Pac-PBF- $30M/$30M -2.5M PPV sales

If you are a Promoter or the Fighter or the Manager, Which Path you're going to Choose???? Pac needs do that DLH fight right away & it will benefit all his next fight after that. He doesn't have to KO DLH, He doesn't have to win. All he needs is to show his heart & give a good & entertaining fight.

Pac's Legacy is secured!!! He can Play around a little bit. Why not make it Bigtime????

How close did I came???

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Are those Chavez Victims higher than DLH, MAB, EM & JMM on atg ratings???

Do you know who Jose Louis Ramirez is or Haugen, Rosario (one of the hardest punchers pound for pound ever) or Camacho? Tell me when the last time Camacho was KO'd or hurt in a fight? Do you know how fast and good meldrick taylor was....LOL

Listen, I like Pacquaio, picked him to beat Cotto and think he's an ATG. Just don't discredit Chavez or say Pac is better than Ali and Leonard.

Your making yourself look ******....

[Pacdbest]

Do you know who Jose Louis Ramirez is or Haugen, Rosario (one of the hardest punchers pound for pound ever) or Camacho? Tell me when the last time Camacho was KO'd or hurt in a fight? Do you know how fast and good meldrick taylor was....LOL

Listen, I like Pacquaio, picked him to beat Cotto and think he's an ATG. Just don't discredit Chavez or say Pac is better than Ali and Leonard.

Your making yourself look ******....

You know what?? I'm a hard to please guy. I was only into the best & the most exciting fighters. In the 70s-80s I was drawn by Alis, Foreman, Frazier, SRL, Duran Hearns & hagler. In the late 80-90s with tyson & that's it. Until Pac shows up in the mainstream in 2003. The Chavez era was weak. I wasn't drawn. The only Chavez i saw live on tv was the DLH beatdown. I don't even dig DLH or Jones, I don't think they're as Great as the 80s star.

But if you can prove me Chavez was greater than the Fighters I've known then show me!!!!

[el_critz]

TS doing monologue....

[Pacdbest]

Do you know who Jose Louis Ramirez is or Haugen, Rosario (one of the hardest punchers pound for pound ever) or Camacho? Tell me when the last time Camacho was KO'd or hurt in a fight? Do you know how fast and good meldrick taylor was....LOL

Listen, I like Pacquaio, picked him to beat Cotto and think he's an ATG. Just don't discredit Chavez or say Pac is better than Ali and Leonard.

Your making yourself look ******....

BTW I saw Chavez fights with those not so Great fighters in ESPN Classic. They never impressed me!!! I'll be honest they're kinda boring to me. I love my Pac fights & SRL & Duran eras!!!