Pacquiao is a top 5 ATG.

[hammerhiem]

Top 5 for sure. No one in boxing history has beaten name opponents one after the other like Pac, without one loss in between to break the win up.

Yes they Have... Jesus christ did you start watching boxing last year?

[kadyo's]

Even emmanuel Steward said that Pacquiao is now a top 5 ATG and let me remind y'all that Steward used to be a pachater. LOL

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06-17-2008, 03:33 AM #33
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Re: Lets say Pacman vs Cotto 2009
If Pac KOs Hatton and beat DLH, that tells you that Pac can carry his power and Sturdy enough for Cotto. Maybe Arum will be crazy enough to make this fight.

Offence wise Pac can handle Cotto. Pac has longer arms and a much faster guy. Power right now belongs to Cotto but we still have to see the stronger Pac at 135-147. Pac vs Diaz, Hatton/DLH will answer that.

You can still bump this in esb:
http://www.********boxing.com/forum/...t=71371&page=3

Hey PacD, do you still post at ESB?

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i am a floyd fan and i have to admit pacquiao is a ATG.

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Here's one from 2007 at esb:


09-11-2007, 06:19 PM #36
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Re: Pac is top-10 P4P on ATG list period!
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Trust me, if Pacman unified 130, then beat Casamayor and Diaz at 135, then beat PBF at 140 (If PBF came down) or Hatton if he beats PBF, he would be top 10 IMO and probably most people's.

But I think it's impossible to do all of that.


Now you're getting my Drift KG. You just think it's impossible. Not me, I believe Pac can do it. You know why?? Because Pac's is Blowing the competition right now at 130. He's improving everyfight & just entering his Prime. Floyd's Prime is Probably at 130 where he's dominating & Knocking most of his opponent. Since then he's struggled with Castillo at 135. Pick his opponent at 140-147 & he's not impressive lately. Floyd's on the way down while Pac's entering his Prime. Pac carry's his Power & Speed and learning new skills, Floyd left his Power at 130 all he has now are speed & Skills. The time this fight could be made, Floyd also will be entering Father time & probably lose some of his Speed. Pac is a rare Breed that comes once in every 50 years. When was the last time we have something like him???

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Hey PacD, do you still post at ESB?

I'm still banned!!! I called that racism!! I never post ****** arguments there. I barely curse anybody there. It just the moderators were the one I'm debating & the one that got embarassed by not believing me.

I search my old predictions there then let the rest bump it. But the moderators there always closing my threads. it will be there still. just google them up.

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Here's one from 2007 at esb:


09-11-2007, 06:19 PM #36
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Re: Pac is top-10 P4P on ATG list period!
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Trust me, if Pacman unified 130, then beat Casamayor and Diaz at 135, then beat PBF at 140 (If PBF came down) or Hatton if he beats PBF, he would be top 10 IMO and probably most people's.

But I think it's impossible to do all of that.


Now you're getting my Drift KG. You just think it's impossible. Not me, I believe Pac can do it. You know why?? Because Pac's is Blowing the competition right now at 130. He's improving everyfight & just entering his Prime. Floyd's Prime is Probably at 130 where he's dominating & Knocking most of his opponent. Since then he's struggled with Castillo at 135. Pick his opponent at 140-147 & he's not impressive lately. Floyd's on the way down while Pac's entering his Prime. Pac carry's his Power & Speed and learning new skills, Floyd left his Power at 130 all he has now are speed & Skills. The time this fight could be made, Floyd also will be entering Father time & probably lose some of his Speed. Pac is a rare Breed that comes once in every 50 years. When was the last time we have something like him???

This hasn't been bump since 2007. ESbers please bump this again.
here's the link:

http://www.********boxing.com/forum/...t=16153&page=3

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08-24-2007, 09:18 AM #21
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Re: Would Pac be an ATG if retires after....
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Only time can tell. How many people thought that Duran is an ATG after SRL-Duran 2 debacle? None. Yet look at where he is ranked now. Many are putting him ahead of SRL. History has a habit of looking things in a different perspective. I am sure that ODLH will be considered an ATG despite always failing to win when the opposition is grade A.

Maybe, years after Mp retires, his victories over MAB, EM, and probably JMM (a draw courtesy of the idiotic judge) would be given more credit than what many pundits gives him today when the three mexicans will be in the HOF.


That's true. If DLH & Leonard will be there on the top 25s Then Pac defenitely belongs in their league. Maybe higher once he achieve to win those mentioned Titles from 130-135. The WOW KO factor of every Pac wins also Counts more than DLH & SRL close & Favorable DEsicion wins against Elite fighters. years After Pac retires & we reminice How Greats He is & How we miss his fights, You guys will look it differently from now.

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Re: Would Pac be an ATG if retires after....
Pac already a Lineal title Holder at 112 & 126. If he beat Diaz/Casamayor winner, He'll be in the league of Henry Armstrong, winning 3 Original lineal weight class titles. Pac will definitely top 10 ATG if he Dominates at 130-135.

Pac already achieved much more than what I initially expected!!! That's why he's already My #3 ATG next SRR & Armstrong.

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08-24-2007, 12:31 PM #26
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Re: Would Pac be an ATG if retires after....
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We still don't know, It's too early to say ATG for Pac. Even if he fights Marquez, Soto, Guzman, Valero or whoever in the near future, I know there would still be more bull**** or excuses coming from haters or critics if Pac beats them all. It's just depends on how Pacquiao could put color on his career, let's just wait and see.


The Haters & Critics here in ESB are not the one who will put Pac in that Pedestal. It will be the Boxing writers, Media, HOF members & Fighters themselves are the ones who will vote for Pac in ATgreatness. we knew they all love Pac. Even the Arrogant Bastard & self Proclaimed #1 Greatest of all time Floyd Mayweather, who did not give Props to SRR & Ali was a Fan of Pacquiao. You can see him jumping for Joy when Pac Koed Morales the 1st time.

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he is top 20, maybe 15. needs to beat Floyd/Mosley to crack top 10 IMO