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THE MOST IMPROVED FIGHTER OF THE DECADE: Manny Pacquiao

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  • Some big laughs in this thread. Yo H-man give it up big dawg. You lost. And you ain't helpin yourself.

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    • Originally posted by Horus View Post
      After Oscar, he did not retire. Because he did not give up his belts.
      and 5 months later he fought hatton.
      After hatton.
      he retired, because he gave up his belts..
      You know very well that he said he's retired. There were no negotiations or anything and he even said he's coming out of retirement because Hatton kept calling him out.

      The organisations do not take the belts back straight away.

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      • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        I post facts and you don't and fact is that Pac has won 3 lineal titles in 3 division plus 6 titles is 6 divisions this decade. And, nobody has done that in this decade.
        Can not argue with FACTS.


        Oscar de la Hoya -- 6 divisions
        1-WBO super featherweight -- 1994
        2-WBO lightweight -- 1994-1995
        IBF lightweight -- 1995
        3-WBC super lightweight -- 1996-1997
        4-WBC welterweight -- 1997-2000 (despite losing a unification fight to IBF champ Trinidad in 1999 he still had the WBC belt when he fought Mosley in 2000)
        5-WBC super welterweight -- 2001-2003, 2006-2007
        WBA super welterweight -- 2002-2003
        6-WBO middleweight -- 2004

        Thomas Hearns -- 5 divisions
        1-WBA welterweight -- 1980-1981
        2-WBC super welterweight -- 1982-1986
        3-WBC light heavyweight -- 1987
        4-WBC middleweight -- 1987-1988
        5-WBO super middleweight -- 1988-1990
        WBA light heavyweight -- 1991-1992

        Sugar Ray Leonard -- 5 divisions
        WBC welterweight -- 1979-1980, 1980-1982
        WBA junior middleweight -- 1981
        WBC middleweight -- 1987
        WBC super middleweight -- 1988-1989
        WBC light heavyweight -- 1988 (won on the same night as he captured the WBC super middleweight title but never defended)

        Floyd Mayweather Jr. -- 5 divisions
        1-WBC super featherweight -- 1998-2001
        2-WBC lightweight -- 2002-2003
        3-WBC super lightweight -- 2005
        4-IBF welterweight -- 2006
        WBC welterweight -- 2006
        5-WBC super welterweight – 2007

        Manny Pacquiao – 5 divisions
        WBC flyweight --1998-1999
        IBF junior featherweight -- 2001-2003
        WBC super featherweight – 2008
        WBC Lightweight -- 2008
        WBO Welterweight-2009

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        • Originally posted by Horus View Post
          Can not argue with FACTS.


          Oscar de la Hoya -- 6 divisions
          1-WBO super featherweight -- 1994
          2-WBO lightweight -- 1994-1995
          IBF lightweight -- 1995
          3-WBC super lightweight -- 1996-1997
          4-WBC welterweight -- 1997-2000 (despite losing a unification fight to IBF champ Trinidad in 1999 he still had the WBC belt when he fought Mosley in 2000)
          5-WBC super welterweight -- 2001-2003, 2006-2007
          WBA super welterweight -- 2002-2003
          6-WBO middleweight -- 2004

          Thomas Hearns -- 5 divisions
          1-WBA welterweight -- 1980-1981
          2-WBC super welterweight -- 1982-1986
          3-WBC light heavyweight -- 1987
          4-WBC middleweight -- 1987-1988
          5-WBO super middleweight -- 1988-1990
          WBA light heavyweight -- 1991-1992

          Sugar Ray Leonard -- 5 divisions
          WBC welterweight -- 1979-1980, 1980-1982
          WBA junior middleweight -- 1981
          WBC middleweight -- 1987
          WBC super middleweight -- 1988-1989
          WBC light heavyweight -- 1988 (won on the same night as he captured the WBC super middleweight title but never defended)

          Floyd Mayweather Jr. -- 5 divisions
          1-WBC super featherweight -- 1998-2001
          2-WBC lightweight -- 2002-2003
          3-WBC super lightweight -- 2005
          4-IBF welterweight -- 2006
          WBC welterweight -- 2006
          5-WBC super welterweight – 2007

          Manny Pacquiao – 5 divisions
          WBC flyweight --1998-1999
          IBF junior featherweight -- 2001-2003
          WBC super featherweight – 2008
          WBC Lightweight -- 2008
          WBO Welterweight-2009

          * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
          * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
          * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
          * 2003 - James Toney
          * 2004 - Glen Johnson
          * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
          * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
          * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
          * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
          * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao

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          • Originally posted by Horus View Post
            Can not argue with FACTS.


            Oscar de la Hoya -- 6 divisions
            1-WBO super featherweight -- 1994
            2-WBO lightweight -- 1994-1995
            IBF lightweight -- 1995
            3-WBC super lightweight -- 1996-1997
            4-WBC welterweight -- 1997-2000 (despite losing a unification fight to IBF champ Trinidad in 1999 he still had the WBC belt when he fought Mosley in 2000)
            5-WBC super welterweight -- 2001-2003, 2006-2007
            WBA super welterweight -- 2002-2003
            6-WBO middleweight -- 2004

            Thomas Hearns -- 5 divisions
            1-WBA welterweight -- 1980-1981
            2-WBC super welterweight -- 1982-1986
            3-WBC light heavyweight -- 1987
            4-WBC middleweight -- 1987-1988
            5-WBO super middleweight -- 1988-1990
            WBA light heavyweight -- 1991-1992

            Sugar Ray Leonard -- 5 divisions
            WBC welterweight -- 1979-1980, 1980-1982
            WBA junior middleweight -- 1981
            WBC middleweight -- 1987
            WBC super middleweight -- 1988-1989
            WBC light heavyweight -- 1988 (won on the same night as he captured the WBC super middleweight title but never defended)

            Floyd Mayweather Jr. -- 5 divisions
            1-WBC super featherweight -- 1998-2001
            2-WBC lightweight -- 2002-2003
            3-WBC super lightweight -- 2005
            4-IBF welterweight -- 2006
            WBC welterweight -- 2006
            5-WBC super welterweight – 2007

            Manny Pacquiao – 5 divisions
            WBC flyweight --1998-1999
            IBF junior featherweight -- 2001-2003
            WBC super featherweight – 2008
            WBC Lightweight -- 2008
            WBO Welterweight-2009
            PS. You actually said 900k PPV buys in our bet. You have 1 mil in your sig.

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            • Originally posted by Chups View Post

              * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
              * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
              * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
              * 2003 - James Toney
              * 2004 - Glen Johnson
              * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
              * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
              * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
              * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
              * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
              4 linear titles in 4 divisions (only person ever) + 3 FOTY (when no one else had more than one) = FOTD (slam dunk.)

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              • Originally posted by PensionKiller View Post
                PS. You actually said 900k PPV buys in our bet. You have 1 mil in your sig.
                my bad...i change that..

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                • Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post

                  * 2000 - Félix Trinidad
                  * 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
                  * 2002 - Vernon Forrest
                  * 2003 - James Toney
                  * 2004 - Glen Johnson
                  * 2005 - Ricky Hatton
                  * 2006 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  * 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
                  * 2009 - Manny Pacquiao
                  ...............

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                  • Originally posted by Horus View Post
                    my bad...i change that..
                    55k aint much to 1 mil bets but you know it's my 55k lol and all I have.

                    If Floyd beats Pac in 2010, he will be fighter of the decade, and if Pac beats Floyd in 2010 then he is.

                    I don't even want to argue this. I'm just excited about this fight and might even get satelite here to watch it even though it's abit expensive for me.

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                    • Pac is the fighter of the decade because he fought all those names in their best divisions which he gets brownie points for.

                      PBF won some titles earlier in his career, but they are against un memorable opponents really, and probably was a weak divison so good timing on PBFs part. He gets points deducted for not fighting Cotto.

                      Pac is right up there in the hall of fame, ATG list because people are impressed so much more of what he achieved, and against whom, this decade than what PBF has achieved and against who he has achieved it. This decade.

                      Sorry about the grammar. Rushing my posts so much.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 11-15-2009, 07:56 PM.

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