THE MOST IMPROVED FIGHTER OF THE DECADE: Manny Pacquiao

[hugh grant]

DECADE= 10 YEARS
2000-2010
For a ten year span who has CONSTANTLY DOMINATED THE MOST?

If Pacquiao is the best fighter on this ENTIRE decade then how is it that for half of the decade he wasnt even ranked in the top 10?

That tells me he is the most improved fighter of the decade...
which he is..

Mayweather has ran through 5 divisions, win 6 world titles, 3 lineal titles, and been ranked at the top of the sport for 10 Consecutive years with 3 1/2 of the years being ranked #1 . And did staying undefeated.

Thats why being undefeated matters in this case.

Because he is undefeated while doing accomplishing great things, and looking great doing it.



Pacquiao is the most improved fighter of this decade.
but not the fighter of the decade.
because he did not dominate for a decade compared to mayweather.

Pacquiao cant be fighter of a decade in which Mayweather has nearly control the whole decade.

But in this last decade, pac is the name people care about. No one is interested PBF because he doesn't challenge himself. He fights hatton at 147 and things like that and has avoided Cotto etc. That is why he probably undefeated.
So Pac is the fighter of the decade, because this decade Pac is, not only the one people talk about in terms of being the best who ever lived, but also the one people are excited about, and PBF isnt. People like Cotto say Pac is the best fighter hes ever fought. No one saying that about PBF.

[jrosales13]

* 2000 - Félix Trinidad
* 2001 - Bernard Hopkins
* 2002 - Vernon Forrest
* 2003 - James Toney
* 2004 - Glen Johnson
* 2005 - Ricky Hatton

* 2006 - Manny Pacquiao

* 2007 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

* 2008 - Manny Pacquiao
* 2009 - Manny Pacquiao

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[Chups]

So by your logic Pac is not even in the top 3 as a fighter of the decade. That is crazy

His logic is with the ranking positions which is totally irrelevant to the fighter of the year and decade awards.

[WhoreUs]

So by your logic Pac is not even in the top 3 as a fighter of the decade. That is crazy

His logic is flawed.
It's also biased.
He hears nothing that isn't praise for PBF.
Pac has him outgunned.
Fighting and beating Pac tomorrow wouldn't change it.
Pac is fighter of the decade.
Pac has accomplished more in a shorter time.
See below.

This is ******.
Pac has surpassed PBF.
Pac has won more total titles.
More linear titles.
More divisions.
Pac's fought tougher fighters.
Pac's put on better performances.

[Horus]

but in this last decade, pac is the name people care about. No one is interested pbf because he doesn't challenge himself. He fights hatton at 147 and things like that and has avoided cotto etc. That is why he probably undefeated.
So pac is the fighter of the decade, because this decade pac is, not only the one people talk about in terms of being the best who ever lived, but also the one people are excited about, and pbf isnt. People like cotto say pac is the best fighter hes ever fought. No one saying that about pbf.

facts prove you wrong.

fighter of the decade

2000-2010

now since we are using the ring magazine titles to give manny pacquiao his 7th title in his 7th weight class, you guys should have no problem in using the ring magazine rankings on top 10 fighters in the last decade to determine who the fighter of the entire decade should be.



year 2000:
manny pacquiao not even ranked on the p4p list
floyd mayweather ranked #2
year 2001
manny pacquiao not ranked. Mayweather ranked #2:
year 2002:
manny pacquiao not ranked. Mayweather ranked #5
year 2003:
manny pacquiao not ranked. Mayweather ranked #5
year 2004:
manny pacquiao first apperance on the p4p list
manny pacquiao ranked #5 mayweather ranked #2
year 2005:
manny pacquiao ranked #5 mayweather ranked #1
year 2006:
manny pacquiao ranked #2 mayweather ranked #1
year 2007:
manny pacquiao ranked #2 mayweather ranked #1
year 2008:
manny pacquiao ranked #2 (until june, when mayweather retired). Mayweather ranked #1
year 2009:
manny pacquiao ranked #1 mayweather ranked #2
year 2010:

pacquiao just recently just got on the pound for pound list in 2004
when he has been a pro since 1995..

Floyd was ranked on ring magazine's pound-for-pound list for ten consecutive years. 10 years.

Pacquiao was has only been on there half of that time!

Floyd has spent three and a half years atop of that list: 2005,2006,2007, end jun/2008 (retire)
1. 2005: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._ratings:_2005
2. 2006: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._ratings:_2006
3. 2007: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._ratings:_2007
4. 2008: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...ne:_april_2008

pacquiao has only spent 1 year 1/2ontop of that list..
2008:http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._ratings:_2008


if pacquiao is the best fighter on this entire decade then how is it that for half of the decade he wasnt even ranked in the top 10?

While mayweather has been at the top for the entire decade???


Why didnt all the boxing experts rank pacquiao higher than mayweather
in
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
if pacquiao is the fighter of the decade?



Pacquiao is the most improved fighter of the decade.
Not the fighter of the decade!
Because he did not dominate the whole decade!!
But he has improved the most this decade!!
(hands down)

pacquiao is the most improved fighter of the decade.

sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due, and right now credit is due. Manny pacquaio is the pound 4 pound best fighter in the sport today.
And the most improved fight of the decade!!

floyd is one of the biggest p.p.v stars of all time.
And the biggest non heavyweight draw ever !!!! besides de la hoya.

boxing's top pay per view attractions

1. Oscar de la hoya - $610.6 million on 12.6 million buys (18 events)
2. Mike tyson - $545 million on 12.4 million buys (12 events)
3. Evander holyfield - $543 million on 12.6 million buys (14 events)
4. Floyd mayweather $355 million dollars on 7.15 million buys (6 events)



(pre 9/19/09)
floyd mayweather $303 million dollars on 6.15 million buys (5 events)

(post 9/19/2009)
floyd mayweather $355 million dollars on 7.15 million buys (6 events)

pay-per-view king

associated press.

floyd mayweather jr. Was once boxing's pound-for-pound champion, and now he's evolving into its pay-per-view king as well.

Mayweather's victory over juan manuel marquez last weekend generated an impressive 1 million pay-per-view buys, hbo sports announced friday. The robust result confirms mayweather's once-debatable superstar status in a sport that thrives on big names in big events.

The bout at the mgm grand garden in las vegas on sept. 19 generated a remarkable $52 million in pay-per-view revenue at its $49.95 suggested price, making it the highest-performing event this year. It's just the fifth non-heavyweight event to generate 1 million buys on a list headed by mayweather's split-decision victory over oscar de la hoya in 2007, which had a record 2.44 million.

Most credited that performance to de la hoya, the sport's top pay-per-view draw before his retirement this year. After leaving boxing for 21 months at the top of his skills, mayweather appears ready to fill the void left by de la hoya with a love-me-or-hate-me persona that interests even casual sports fans.

Still, 1 million buys even surprised hbo sports president ross greenburg.

"i'm going to say it's unexpected, but there was always a side of me that knew it was crossing over," greenburg told the associated press. "you have to give some credit to juan manuel marquez's hispanic fan base, but beyond that, floyd mayweather has established himself as a star in the sport. All his work with 'dancing with the stars' and the wwe and (hbo reality show) '24/7' has established an image that floyd projects and that people are interested in."

hbo and golden boy promotions attempted to reach new markets for boxing with a pastiche of internet events, marketing tie-ins and public appearances. Hbo also saw a ratings ****e for the four-part "24/7" series leading up to the fight, suggesting mayweather's persona and fighting skills were the main draw for that surprising number of fans.

"there's no question he's got a little bit of that muhammad ali in him from the '60s," greenburg said. "there were a lot of people that wanted to see his mouth shut as well, and you can't take your eyes off him."

mayweather's previous fight against ricky hatton in december 2007 generated 920,000 buys before mayweather took a break during which he danced on network television, pretended to wrestle on cable, and took endorsement deals that raised his profile — although nobody knew just how much until now.

Golden boy ceo richard schaefer anticipated impressive numbers for mayweather-marquez on thursday, saying the fight went "through the roof."

"it's big, very big," schaefer said. "a lot of people didn't believe us. Maybe i've gained a little credibility with my predictions. Most importantly, i hope the world realizes when we release these numbers that floyd mayweather, love him or hate him, is today — without any question, no ifs, ands or buts — the no. 1 pay-per-view star in the world."
the pay-per-view sales apparently weren't even harmed by golden boy's decision to show the fight in 170 movie theaters around the country, a strategy that worried greenburg. Schaefer said the fight played to about 80 percent capacity in theaters, which were once a regular site for closed-circuit boxing shows.

Mayweather-marquez also scored what's likely to be a clear victory over the pay-per-view telecast of ufc 103, which is thought to have generated only a fraction of hbo's 1 million sales. Ufc 103 was a fairly minor card on the league's calendar, yet the two so-called "combat sports" rarely go head-to-head on pay-per-view.






now somebody put pacquiao numbers up!

pay per view sales:


vs delahoya
mayweather: 2.4 million
pacquiao: 1.2 million

vs. Marquez
mayweather: 1.0 million
pacquiao: 400k

vs hatton
mayweather: 950k
pacquiao: 825k

total:
mayweather: 4,35 million
pacquiao: 2.43 million

other opponents

mayweather vs baldomir: 325k
pacquiao vs diaz: 175k

mayweather vs judah: 390k
pacquiao vs barrera: 350k

box office sales:

vs delahoya
mayweather: 17,078 attendance; $18.4 million revenue (the record)
pacquiao: 14,468 attendance; $14.4 million revenue

vs. Marquez:
mayweather: 13,116 attendance
pacquiao: 11,061 attendance

vs hatton:
mayweather: 15,488 attendance; $10.4 million revenue
pacquiao: 15,368 attendance, $8.8 million revenue


mayweather sells more against common opponents.
Mayweather sells more against no-names (baldomir/diaz).

mayweather….sells more.

congratulations to floyd for bringing the fans back to boxing...great for the sport.

[jrosales13]

If Pacquiao is the best fighter on this ENTIRE decade then how is it that for half of the decade he wasnt even ranked in the top 10?

plan and simple..:****you:

He was ranked top 10 for more than half of the decade. Get your math skills up. So far he has been ranked top 10 for 7yrs now. And, for the last 6yrs he has been top 5. And, plus if you add 3 times fighter of the year award. He is the fighter of the decade. But, you right he is also the most improved fighter of the decade. He accomplish both things in the same decade what an accomplishment.

[jrosales13]

His logic is flawed.
It's also biased.
He hears nothing that isn't praise for PBF.
Pac has him outgunned.
Fighting and beating Pac tomorrow wouldn't change it.
Pac is fighter of the decade.
Pac has accomplished more in a shorter time.
See below.

I know his logic is flawed bro. I just ask a question just to see what his answer was. Plus he is also a liar and does not throw any facts in. Horus has said numerous times that Pac did not get in the P4P list until 2005. While the Ring had him as high as #6 since 2003 and has been on the list ever since.

[jrosales13]

His logic is with the ranking positions which is totally irrelevant to the fighter of the year and decade awards.

True and even using his own logic is still wrong. I just wanted him to answer the question so I could expose him.

[Bogler]

LOL at Horus using the mythical p4p rankings as supporting argument for Fighter of the Decade. Fighter of the Decade will be determined by ACTUAL accomplishments for the past decade, not from a mythical p4p list which differs for everyone.

[hugh grant]

Pac is the fighter of the decade because he beat more names, and in more divisions than anyone this decade, and any other decade.

The public and Pacs peers vote him the fighter of the decade. PBF isnt on anyones mind so cant be the fighter of the decade.