Serious question, if (and a BIG if) Pac stops Floyd, where do you rank him ALL TIME?

[Roger Mellie]

That makes no sense. That means that Cotto did nothing for Pac's status at all because he doesn't even register as a blip as anything more than just a good champion of today. He's not a HOF'er, he's not an ATG and would rank much lower than Pac, therefore he doesn't help Pac at all. That makes no sense.

Pac to get higher than ten to twenty would absolutely need to beat Mayweather. He is the only fighter that can really show that Pac is an ATG worthy of being any higher than ten to twenty.

To get that high you need to beat another fighter that is an ATG. Cotto isn't. It was an amazing win and it shot Pac to true ATG status but it doesn't mean he beat another ATG.

He doesnt need to fight floyd to cement his legacy of the best of his era. Floyd is a great fighter,but doesnt fight enough. Floyd is a fighter,rightly or wrongly,who is synonymous with avoiding challenges whereas Pacquiao actively seeks them out and stays busy. Its got to the point now where Floyd would have to do a lot more than just beat Pac to even be considered anywhere near him in terms of status.

I respect your opinion btw,but this is mine.

[SuckaPunch]

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[J.Dempsey]

IF he stopped mayweather, he's in the top 5...mayweathers just too damn gd, i cant see it happening..but IF...boy he's something else!

[street bully]

Top 10 .

[bklynboy]

That makes no sense. That means that Cotto did nothing for Pac's status at all because he doesn't even register as a blip as anything more than just a good champion of today. He's not a HOF'er, he's not an ATG and would rank much lower than Pac, therefore he doesn't help Pac at all. That makes no sense.

Pac to get higher than ten to twenty would absolutely need to beat Mayweather. He is the only fighter that can really show that Pac is an ATG worthy of being any higher than ten to twenty.

To get that high you need to beat another fighter that is an ATG. Cotto isn't. It was an amazing win and it shot Pac to true ATG status but it doesn't mean he beat another ATG.

Agree completely. Right now Pac is entering the TOP 20 ATG category. If he beats Mayweather who, like him or not, is a defensive genius it would catapult Pac up to TOP 10 and contending for TOP 5. He would definately be a contender for the best fighter of the last 40 years: Arguello, Duran, Chavez, Pryor, Sugar Ray Leonard, Whitaker, Hagler, Hopkins, Jones, Tyson.

What makes Pac impressive to me -- in addition to moving up in weight -- is that he changed from a brawler to a boxer. Imagine if Gatti, with his chin and heart became a talented boxer; that he actually learned to box at the highest level and not rely on his chin and his toughness to win a fight.

[gratz_the_king]

honestly, this will sound crazy lol...but i think he has a case for being NUMBER ONE of all time if he KO's mayweather...

you people who say 20+ are ****in ridiculous. what more would he possibly have to do?? get that old nostalgic bull**** out of your heads, the 60's and 70s were a LONG time ago..times change, fighters get better...the old time legends wont be #1 forever...

[bklynboy]

honestly, this will sound crazy lol...but i think he has a case for being NUMBER ONE of all time if he KO's mayweather...

you people who say 20+ are ****in ridiculous. what more would he possibly have to do?? get that old nostalgic bull**** out of your heads, the 60's and 70s were a LONG time ago..times change, fighters get better...the old time legends wont be #1 forever...

NUMBER ONE of all time is pushing it. There are SO many great fighters. It's hard to compare between eras. How would the greats Ketchel, Ross, Greb have done if they had 3 months between fights to rest up and heal and prepare for the next fight; if they could study video and train for their upcoming fight. On the other hand how would Mayweather do if there was no video and he fought every two or three weeks?

[Fulcrum29]

top 5 or 10

[skullduggery]

beating floyd mayweather would boost him like 10 sopts on the atg list... anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly ******ed......

[Junito-Rulez]

Top 10, i rank him right now in my first 12 best fighters ever. You have guys like Greb, Armstrong and Robinson in the top 10.