Serious question, if (and a BIG if) Pac stops Floyd, where do you rank him ALL TIME?

[PAKYO]

He is already top 5 and wont elevate his status by beating an inferior fighter.

True.

I'm actually ranking floyd just slighty below the sole of my feet.

[Roger Mellie]

True.

I'm actually ranking floyd just slighty below the sole of my feet.

Nah,Floyd is a great fighter, but Manny is doing something truly amazing. Floyd talks the talk whereas Manny walks the walk.

[horge]

I have Pac Top 20 ATG.
Beating Floyd wouldn't change his standing (what belt does Floyd hold right now?)

If Pac were to unify the WW belts and capture WW lineal... that might be something.

[BennyST]

He dont need to beat PBF to get any higher than he is. In actual fact beating PBF wont make him more of an ATG than he is.
He is considered a better fighter than PBF, so beating someone of lower stature than him is no big deal.

That makes no sense. That means that Cotto did nothing for Pac's status at all because he doesn't even register as a blip as anything more than just a good champion of today. He's not a HOF'er, he's not an ATG and would rank much lower than Pac, therefore he doesn't help Pac at all. That makes no sense.

Pac to get higher than ten to twenty would absolutely need to beat Mayweather. He is the only fighter that can really show that Pac is an ATG worthy of being any higher than ten to twenty.

To get that high you need to beat another fighter that is an ATG. Cotto isn't. It was an amazing win and it shot Pac to true ATG status but it doesn't mean he beat another ATG.

[PensionKiller]

I'm not sure because I have not got a lot of history to say this guy is an ATG etc... compared to the past, but I just know he is.

I personally feel that Pac and Floyd are the only fighters that can test each other the most.

Floyd has a solid chin but he can get KD. Judah kind of did it and even Hatton when he was off balance. Floyd is very athletic and has great balance normally so it will be hard, but I know Pac has the speed, but especially the angles.

Floyd has the style that would neutrilise Pac's workrate for sure, but also it will be ideal for him because he does like to set up his punches, and he kind of goes wild in a brawl and can get hit like in the Marquez fights.

Both have excellent eyes and would throw some great planned shots. Both will miss because of movement, and probably have the lowest connect % that they have ever had.

Oh man I can see this fight being a big ass fight and something great.

[PapaMo]

pac will be demoted to top 50 if he fights a fraud like floyd.

[BennyST]

I have Pac Top 20 ATG.
Beating Floyd wouldn't change his standing (what belt does Floyd hold right now?)

If Pac were to unify the WW belts and capture WW lineal... that might be something.

Well, getting a couple more belts is about the least he could do to change anyting for his status. With the amount of belts around now, it doesn't help a fighter to get more. Mayweather is the best fighter apart from Pac today, and for many years now and is another great fighter.

Pac needs to beat him to cement his legacy as the best of this era. Would be an exciting fight too.

[PAKYO]

That makes no sense. That means that Cotto did nothing for Pac's status at all because he doesn't even register as a blip as anything more than just a good champion of today. He's not a HOF'er, he's not an ATG and would rank much lower than Pac, therefore he doesn't help Pac at all. That makes no sense.

Pac to get higher than twenty-ish would absolutely need to beat Mayweather. He is the only fighter that can really show that Pac is an ATG worthy of being any higher than twenty.

To get that high you need to beat another fighter that is an ATG. Cotto isn't. It was an amazing win and it shot Pac to true ATG status but it doesn't mean he beat another ATG.

It's only floyd stans who considers floyd as an ATG. He never was, never is and never will, he's just all talk.

I consider him a duck though...and that's not hating him yet.

[The Gambler1981]

Mayweather is the greatest possible fighter he can beat so it would still be the crowning ***el in his career if he could pull it off, I don't see how that does not help his standing.

[PensionKiller]

That makes no sense. That means that Cotto did nothing for Pac's status at all because he doesn't even register as a blip as anything more than just a good champion of today. He's not a HOF'er, he's not an ATG and would rank much lower than Pac, therefore he doesn't help Pac at all. That makes no sense.

Pac to get higher than twenty-ish would absolutely need to beat Mayweather. He is the only fighter that can really show that Pac is an ATG worthy of being any higher than twenty.

To get that high you need to beat another fighter that is an ATG. Cotto isn't. It was an amazing win and it shot Pac to true ATG status but it doesn't mean he beat another ATG.

I agree that to be more of an ATG, you need to beat them. It doesn't matter if you believe Cotto is better and could beat May, Boxing is political and to beat someone of this era who is also a guranteed ATG will always enhance you.

Money will be an issue is this fight, but if it's made, both have very, very dangerous styles for each other. Pac is a better version of Judah, and Floyd is a better version of Marquez. Both much, much better and different, but also I can see it being that close.