Why will Pacman win?

[!! Shawn]

Well speed does seem to give Cotto trouble, Judah and Mosley both got to him numerous times. Pacquiao is faster than both Judah and Mosley, not especially in the handspeed department, in that department they are quite close even though I think Pacquiao is faster there too, but the footspeed of Pacquiao is much faster than that of Judah or Mosley, the way he steps to the side, moves in and out all while throwing punches in bunches is not something Cotto has seen before.

And I disagree with Cotto not showing weakness to straight lefts or right hooks from southpaws, Cotto got hit and stunned by a counter straight left hand by Judah and Judah nailed him down the middle quite a few times. Chop Chop hurt him with a right hook to the temple, even though the fight was at 140 where his punch resistance might not be what it is now, he still got hit with the shot.

Pacquiao's power I think it underestimated by some people, the guy might not have knocked DLH clean out but he did shake DLH up quite a few times and DLH even had to hold onto the ropes to stay up once. I think the reason DLH said Pacquiao has no power at the weight was because as the fight went on he was so focused on defense, he was bracing himself for the shots coming so the shots didn't have the effect they did on someone like Hatton and Diaz who were both aggressive fighters.

And about Mosley's skills, he has very good skills but he didn't fight a very smart tactical fight against Cotto, he got right hand happy and kept shooting those wide right hands that Cotto could see coming. I honestly think Mosley could've fought a much better fight.

Anyways, Cotto shouldn't be written off at all. He's a very, very good fighter and the toughest test of Pacquiao's career but I feel Pacquiao will win it.

I think that if anything, Pacmans power is over estimated, not under estimated. The way people were talking, you would think that he hits harder than Cotto, which I sincerely doubt is true.

Add in the fact that Cotto's hand speed is severely underestimated on a regular basis, and the fact that Cotto's sledge hammer jab is the antidote for Mannys right hook, and I think we end up with a fighter were Manny's options are limited to bombing left hands.

People have begun to talk about Manny like he is a supremely skilled fighter. He isn't. He is the same one dimensional brawler has always been. His opposition of late has been carefully chosen to make him look good, and they really did a good job of it.

He still falls all over the place off balance. His defense is still nearly none existent, and his lateral movement is still often as detrimental as it is beneficial.

He is an exciting fighter, with fast hands, and a hell of a punch, but not much else.

Is it enough to beat Cotto? I don't know, but I strongly suspect that he looks much worse than people expect him to look.

Of course the unknown is the Margarito factor. We still don't know if is performance against Clottey was because Clottey is that good, or because Margarito took that much out of Cotto, but we will find out tomorrow.

[Silencers]

I think that if anything, Pacmans power is over estimated, not under estimated. The way people were talking, you would think that he hits harder than Cotto, which I sincerely doubt is true.

Add in the fact that Cotto's hand speed is severely underestimated on a regular basis, and the fact that Cotto's sledge hammer jab is the antidote for Mannys right hook, and I think we end up with a fighter were Manny's options are limited to bombing left hands.

People have begun to talk about Manny like he is a supremely skilled fighter. He isn't. He is the same one dimensional brawler has always been. His opposition of late has been carefully chosen to make him look good, and they really did a good job of it.

He still falls all over the place off balance. His defense is still nearly none existent, and his lateral movement is still often as detrimental as it is beneficial.

He is an exciting fighter, with fast hands, and a hell of a punch, but not much else.

Is it enough to beat Cotto? I don't know, but I strongly suspect that he looks much worse than people expect him to look.

Of course the unknown is the Margarito factor. We still don't know if is performance against Clottey was because Clottey is that good, or because Margarito took that much out of Cotto, but we will find out tomorrow.

Well it's mainly the Pacquiao fanboys who are saying that, what do you expect from them? Cotto is definitely the heavier handed guy of the two but Pacquiao is the more explosive puncher, if he hits Cotto with something Cotto doesn't see coming, who knows what's going to happen?

I actually think Pacquiao will wait for Cotto to throw his jab and come over the top with his right hook or with his own hook jab which is his jab that comes over with a slight arc on it. I think it'd be able to work with Cotto because Cotto drops his shoulder sometimes when he jabs.

I disagree that Pacquiao is one dimensional, he has shown more dimensions in his last few fights, fighting side to side, setting up his punches, he's much more of a thinker now than he used to be. I think you'd have to be blind not to see the improvements he's made over the years. No he isn't supremely skilled but he is a very skilled fighter nonetheless.

Pacquiao still falls in from time to time but it's much, much better than it used to be. And his defense is pretty good now actually, good head movement, he's picking off shots more now with his gloves and arms. When he's on the ropes, that's when his defense goes downhill.

His lateral movement in this fight should help him a lot, step over to the side and keep Cotto resetting, pop Cotto when he becomes overly aggressive, get in, get out. His footwork and lateral movement will have to be spot on in this fight.

1 thing about Cotto's speed, yes it's underestimated but I feel that he's slower now than he was before the Margarito fight, I was rewatching his fights with Mosley and Judah the other day and he looked much faster against them than he did against Jennings and Clottey. His timing in those fights were better as well, timing will be instrumental in this fight for him. It'll be interesting to see if he'll be able to put it all together against Pacquiao.

[MANGLER]

If he wins it's cuz Cotto's stamina sucks.

[baCCaT]

pacquiaos punches in bunches...
not the single, timing and angle of a 1 punch..

the accumulation of a not-as-powerful-as-it-may-seem punches
not all will land definitely..but the sheer number will take its effect eventually..
of course cotto can take the punch...but to what extent.

thats the advantage.

[The Gambler1981]

Some thoughts I have on the fight~

1. Can Miguel force Manny off of Plan A?

To me if Miguel can force Manny to adjust he will have an advantage because Manny always looks his best when Plan A works and he does not have to adjust.

2. Can Manny force Miguel to box off the backfoot?

Miguel is a good boxer and is the more skillful fighter in my opinion but he is not a defensive wizard when he moves backwards he always gets hit more then he should. If Manny can force Miguel back that serves well for Manny's chances.

3. Can Manny hurt Miguel with one punch?

I really do not see Manny catching Cotto with a wild hayemaker so I think he will need to land a bunch of blows to really hurt Miguel and break him down. Miguel to me is the harder puncher, so Manny should be careful with his wild leaping attacks.

4. Who had the better training camp?

From the looks of 24/7 I would say Miguel (he also looked in tremendous shape at the weigh-in), but to me he looked to be training at his pace and not really for the worst case scenario, if Manny can take Cotto's fire and really push him will he start to gas out and become less active. Or will Manny's camp escapades come back to haunt him, he did look a bit beefier.

5. Can Cotto's timing offset Manny's raw speed?

Cotto does have pretty fast hands aswell but Manny does have the clear edge, but Cotto does posses the timing to really make up for the speed gap. To me this is where it is key that Cotto stands his ground so he can really punish Manny with his timing if Manny gets careless. If Cotto is moving away fighting off the backfoot I do not know if he will be able to deliver enough power to really keep Manny off of him.

6. Who will win?

I was torn on this but as the fight gets closer I am starting to like Cotto's chances, unless he starts fighting off the backfoot fairly early.

[THRILLA77]

I still cant pick a winner for this fight....i just hope its a war.....

[Jabroni]

I still cant pick a winner for this fight....i just hope its a war.....

IMO, it was well worth the PPV purchase. Not fight of the year, but still good.

[S A M U R A I]

He has fought Zab Judah

Judah is brilliant, isn't he.



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