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    What does he bring to the plate that Cotto hasn't seen before. Speed? He has fought Zab Judah, and Shane Mosley... both men are arguable faster. Power? He has fought Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito. Boxing skill? Once again, Shane Mosley is arguable a better boxer than Manny.

    Cotto has shown no vulnerability to straight left hands or right hooks against southpaws, only left uppercuts, which is a punch Manny doesn't have.

    So where, other than his name, are people writing off Cotto from?

    Manny didn't show spectacular power against Oscar, Hatton's chin was butter to begin with, and his last noteworthy KO was at 135 against David Diaz. So why are we assuming his punch will carry to 145? We don't have any evidence that it will.

    I think people are writing off Cotto without actually taking the time to see how the styles will match up.

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    250k on Pacquiao.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
      What does he bring to the plate that Cotto hasn't seen before. Speed? He has fought Zab Judah, and Shane Mosley... both men are arguable faster. Power? He has fought Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito. Boxing skill? Once again, Shane Mosley is arguable a better boxer than Manny.

      Cotto has shown no vulnerability to straight left hands or right hooks against southpaws, only left uppercuts, which is a punch Manny doesn't have.

      So where, other than his name, are people writing off Cotto from?

      Manny didn't show spectacular power against Oscar, Hatton's chin was butter to begin with, and his last noteworthy KO was at 135 against David Diaz. So why are we assuming his punch will carry to 145? We don't have any evidence that it will.

      I think people are writing off Cotto without actually taking the time to see how the styles will match up.
      how much you want to put on cotto , shawn?

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      • #4
        - Hand Speed
        - Foot Speed
        - Superior Game Plan
        - Conditioning

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        • #5
          I agree, some people are treating Cotto like some type of contender. He is a seasoned ring technician with enough skill and discipline to beat Pacquiao. I still think Pacquiao will win if it gets past 7 or 8, but Cotto looks to be in the best shape of his life. I just hope for a great fight, because that PPV is expensive lol

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          • #6
            Well speed does seem to give Cotto trouble, Judah and Mosley both got to him numerous times. Pacquiao is faster than both Judah and Mosley, not especially in the handspeed department, in that department they are quite close even though I think Pacquiao is faster there too, but the footspeed of Pacquiao is much faster than that of Judah or Mosley, the way he steps to the side, moves in and out all while throwing punches in bunches is not something Cotto has seen before.

            And I disagree with Cotto not showing weakness to straight lefts or right hooks from southpaws, Cotto got hit and stunned by a counter straight left hand by Judah and Judah nailed him down the middle quite a few times. Chop Chop hurt him with a right hook to the temple, even though the fight was at 140 where his punch resistance might not be what it is now, he still got hit with the shot.

            Pacquiao's power I think it underestimated by some people, the guy might not have knocked DLH clean out but he did shake DLH up quite a few times and DLH even had to hold onto the ropes to stay up once. I think the reason DLH said Pacquiao has no power at the weight was because as the fight went on he was so focused on defense, he was bracing himself for the shots coming so the shots didn't have the effect they did on someone like Hatton and Diaz who were both aggressive fighters.

            And about Mosley's skills, he has very good skills but he didn't fight a very smart tactical fight against Cotto, he got right hand happy and kept shooting those wide right hands that Cotto could see coming. I honestly think Mosley could've fought a much better fight.

            Anyways, Cotto shouldn't be written off at all. He's a very, very good fighter and the toughest test of Pacquiao's career but I feel Pacquiao will win it.

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            • #7
              trainer....
              cotto gets hit way to much
              cotto get tired usually
              ONLY cottos jab can save him.... ONLY
              cottos jab is super hard and straight everything else he will get off seconds and suffer consequenses

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              • #8
                Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                What does he bring to the plate that Cotto hasn't seen before. Speed? He has fought Zab Judah, and Shane Mosley... both men are arguable faster. Power? He has fought Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito. Boxing skill? Once again, Shane Mosley is arguable a better boxer than Manny.

                Cotto has shown no vulnerability to straight left hands or right hooks against southpaws, only left uppercuts, which is a punch Manny doesn't have.

                So where, other than his name, are people writing off Cotto from?

                Manny didn't show spectacular power against Oscar, Hatton's chin was butter to begin with, and his last noteworthy KO was at 135 against David Diaz. So why are we assuming his punch will carry to 145? We don't have any evidence that it will.

                I think people are writing off Cotto without actually taking the time to see how the styles will match up.
                Where you're wrong is, Shane ain't been Shane since Vernon waxed his @ss. Don't let his drubbing of Margarita fool ya!

                If Cotto came from the Tito, Shane, DLH, Vernon and Winky's generation, Puto would be a mere contender!

                As far Judah is concerned, listen, Zab had the physical tools to get it done. Thanks for the low blows served by that Puto and Judah's lack of mental fortitude.

                Speed! Shane's speed ain't been the same, it just looks good against turtles!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                  Well speed does seem to give Cotto trouble, Judah and Mosley both got to him numerous times. Pacquiao is faster than both Judah and Mosley, not especially in the handspeed department, in that department they are quite close even though I think Pacquiao is faster there too, but the footspeed of Pacquiao is much faster than that of Judah or Mosley, the way he steps to the side, moves in and out all while throwing punches in bunches is not something Cotto has seen before.

                  And I disagree with Cotto not showing weakness to straight lefts or right hooks from southpaws, Cotto got hit and stunned by a counter straight left hand by Judah and Judah nailed him down the middle quite a few times. Chop Chop hurt him with a right hook to the temple, even though the fight was at 140 where his punch resistance might not be what it is now, he still got hit with the shot.

                  Pacquiao's power I think it underestimated by some people, the guy might not have knocked DLH clean out but he did shake DLH up quite a few times and DLH even had to hold onto the ropes to stay up once. I think the reason DLH said Pacquiao has no power at the weight was because as the fight went on he was so focused on defense, he was bracing himself for the shots coming so the shots didn't have the effect they did on someone like Hatton and Diaz who were both aggressive fighters.

                  And about Mosley's skills, he has very good skills but he didn't fight a very smart tactical fight against Cotto, he got right hand happy and kept shooting those wide right hands that Cotto could see coming. I honestly think Mosley could've fought a much better fight.

                  Anyways, Cotto shouldn't be written off at all. He's a very, very good fighter and the toughest test of Pacquiao's career but I feel Pacquiao will win it.
                  Haven't seen a long post like this from you in a while . Always good to read your stuff.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Young Jewshua View Post
                    Haven't seen a long post like this from you in a while . Always good to read your stuff.

                    Thanks. Yeah, you kinda waste your time sometimes when you post long thought out posts on NSB, can't be bothered to do it too much these days.

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