Roger Mayweather: “I’d be shocked if Pacquiao beats Cotto!”

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  • Titing Kabayo
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    #71
    How I wish Pacquiao wins and Roger would be shocked for the rest of his ****** life...

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      #72
      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
      YOU= "I mean is it that hard to understand that Pac carries the weigh better? Is not rocket science. Pac carried his speed and power. JMM did not. I can not make it anymore simple."

      is this a fact? or an opinion? how does Pac carry the weight better?

      since leaving 130 at the same time BTW .....

      Pac has fought @ 135 (1) 147 (1) & 140 (1)

      Marquez has fought @ 135 (2) & 144 (1) Catchweight

      how can you say Pac carries the weight better?..Marquez moves up to fight the best defensive fighter in the game @ WW while Pac got a corpse at WW and thats what you are judging their rise up in weight and who carried it better?....your assessment is flawed.....

      JMM couldnt carry the weight @ 142 lbs vs Mayweather but people want to see Pac & JMM 3 @ 140lbs?......yeah makes perfect sense...JMM cant fight that high........


      or at least not that high vs Mayweather
      Look at JMM LW. Just look at the Casamayor fight. Casamayor was done. Casamayor has been done in the top level since the Santa Cruz fight. But, the only reason Casamayor gave JMM trouble was cuz it was at LW. JMM won both of his fights at LW cuz of his skills. However, if you look closely you would see he didn't have his legs underneath him watch the fights again. Just look at the legs and tell me who carried the weigh better and I am just talking about LW. Just look who had their legs underneath them. Let alone at WW, if you couldn't realize that JMM power and that he would speed. Then you obviously don't know boxing.

      And, what catchweight are you talking about? And, for the last time I said. Pac would beat JMM at LW. Cuz JMM could not carry the weight as good as Pac as a LW. And, I said the fight is at 140 Pac would KO JMM. Hatton would beat JMM at 140. Cuz JMM is not a JWW. Is really not that hard to understand.

      And, peoples body are different. Oscar could move up 5 different weightclasses and be effective. Chavez could only move up 3. Monzon stayed in the same weightclass, Henry Armstrong well you know. Atleast I hope you do. While Willie Pep just stayed at 1 weightclass. The point is you can not just say well Pac did so JMM could do it as well. If you look at JMM fights at 135 you had to know that was his limit.

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      • Jiddu Dali
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        #73
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Look at JMM LW. Just look at the Casamayor fight. Casamayor was done. Casamayor has been done in the top level since the Santa Cruz fight. But, the only reason Casamayor gave JMM trouble was cuz it was at LW. JMM won both of his fights at LW cuz of his skills. However, if you look closely you would see he didn't have his legs underneath him watch the fights again. Just look at the legs and tell me who carried the weigh better and I am just talking about LW. Just look who had their legs underneath them. Let alone at WW, if you couldn't realize that JMM power and that he would speed. Then you obviously don't know boxing.

        And, what catchweight are you talking about? And, for the last time I said. Pac would beat JMM at LW. Cuz JMM could not carry the weight as good as Pac as a LW. And, I said the fight is at 140 Pac would KO JMM. Hatton would beat JMM at 140. Cuz JMM is not a JWW. Is really not that hard to understand.

        And, peoples body are different. Oscar could move up 5 different weightclasses and be effective. Chavez could only move up 3. Monzon stayed in the same weightclass, Henry Armstrong well you know. Atleast I hope you do. While Willie Pep just stayed at 1 weightclass. The point is you can not just say well Pac did so JMM could do it as well. If you look at JMM fights at 135 you had to know that was his limit.
        How is JMM NOT a JWW???...we havent even seen him fight @ 140 really...and when he did he fought THE BEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTER IN BOXING..of course he was gonna look like ****...he couldnt land a punch ......

        relax with your throwback comparison exuses ....fact is NOONE knows if Marquez can carry the weight....HOW THE HELL ARE U THE MARQUEZ ORACLE?....YOU CLAIM MARQUEZ COULDNT CARRY THE WEIGHT but TEAM MARQUEZ SAID OTHERWISE.....this was AFTER Marquez trained at high altitudes and ran @4 am and threw rocks around.....this was AFTER he put on weight and said the weight wasnt a problem....this was AFTER he drank his own piss for extra nutrients....this was AFTER HIM & HIS Trainer said THEY WOULD KNOCK MAYWEATHER OUT & they were in the best shapes of their lives. then all of a sudden he gets SHUT OUT and Looks like a sparring partner and HE CANT CARRY THE WEIGHT????? GTFOH ...



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          #74
          Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
          How is JMM NOT a JWW???...we havent even seen him fight @ 140 really...and when he did he fought THE BEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTER IN BOXING..of course he was gonna look like ****...he couldnt land a punch ......

          relax with your throwback comparison exuses
          relax with the throwback comparisons? I guess I would have to cuz my knowledge is so much ahead of yours. That I can talk about the old school. I guess you can't

          Read what I am writing. You don't have to see JMM at JWW to know he is not at JWW. Just look at JMM at LW FFS. Watch bots his fights there. That is the homework for you. And, then watch his fights at SFW. Watch JMM legs at both weightclasses. And, then if you know boxing. You probably would see what I am talking about when I said JMM did not have his legs under him at LW. That is why LW is his limit. Fuck the Mayweather fight. Just look at his fights at LW. And, you would see that was his limit. A shot Casamayor gave him trouble. Whenever you get the chance look at the fights and just look at JMM at LW compare to SFW. And, you would see that JMM is not a JWW. He was pushing it at LW. And, when JMM was still at LW he could of still make SFW. And, the only reason he moved up to LW was to get a third fight with Pac. But, JMM could of still gone down to SFW.

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          • Jiddu Dali
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            #75
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            relax with the throwback comparisons? I guess I would have to cuz my knowledge is so much ahead of yours. That I can talk about the old school. I guess you can't

            Read what I am writing. You don't have to see JMM at JWW to know he is not at JWW. Just look at JMM at LW FFS. Watch bots his fights there. That is the homework for you. And, then watch his fights at SFW. Watch JMM legs at both weightclasses. And, then if you know boxing. You probably would see what I am talking about when I said JMM did not have his legs under him at LW. That is why LW is his limit. Fuck the Mayweather fight. Just look at his fights at LW. And, you would see that was his limit. A shot Casamayor gave him trouble. Whenever you get the chance look at the fights and just look at JMM at LW compare to SFW. And, you would see that JMM is not a JWW. He was pushing it at LW. And, when JMM was still at LW he could of still make SFW. And, the only reason he moved up to LW was to get a third fight with Pac. But, JMM could of still gone down to SFW.
            lol..son I am older than you, and have alot of those fighters you refer too i have them on tape and or dvd (transfered)....

            man you are still spilling the same madness.....fact remains...NOONE KNOWS IF JMM CAN FIGHT @140....did we know Pac could fight @147 when he jumped 12lbs to fight Oscar? hell no!!! everyone thought the bigger oscar would beat him....

            so why do you assume that marquez cant compete @140 or higher? because his legs arent as big as Pacquiao's?

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            • MANGLER
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              #76
              Shocked, but happy. More $ in your pocket Rog. Possibly anyway.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                HOW THE HELL ARE U THE MARQUEZ ORACLE?....YOU CLAIM MARQUEZ COULDNT CARRY THE WEIGHT but TEAM MARQUEZ SAID OTHERWISE.....this was AFTER Marquez trained at high altitudes and ran @4 am and threw rocks around.....this was AFTER he put on weight and said the weight wasnt a problem....this was AFTER he drank his own piss for extra nutrients....this was AFTER HIM & HIS Trainer said THEY WOULD KNOCK MAYWEATHER OUT & they were in the best shapes of their lives. then all of a sudden he gets SHUT OUT and Looks like a sparring partner and HE CANT CARRY THE WEIGHT????? GTFOH ...


                OMG Ali said he was in the best shape of his life when he fought Holmes. Ali's team said that they would beat Holmes. That Holmes was not as good as Ali. So just cuz Ali said he was in the best shape of his life and Ali team said he could beat Holmes. But, at the end of the night Holmes puts a whoopin at Ali. So was Ali and his team right?

                Every single fight Oscar said he was in the best shape of his life. Was that true?

                When Tito fought Roy. Did you think Trinidad was going to carry his power at 170? Did you think Tito was going to carry the weight well? Cuz I didn't and again after watching the fight I was right. But, did you think he carried his power up there? Did you think he carried the weight well? I really want your opinion in this.

                I mean what is he suppose to say before the fight. Well know we not carrying the weight. Floyd is going to beat us. And, we understand we taking cuz is going to be our biggest payday. I mean is that what he is suppose to say before the fight? But, believed everything he said what true fighter doesent? What great fighter does not believe in himself? Well except for Floyd. Yes JMM said that and yes he probably believed all that. But, it doesent mean he was right

                Again before the fight if I said JMM was not going to carry the weight well. WTF are you talking about? I said the size will matter. I said this before the fight. And, I was not wrong. JMM did not carry the weight well. I am sorry if you couldn't see it before hand. But, I did. Maybe cuz I been following JMM since his days from the forum. That I could tell he didn't have his legs under him at LW.

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                • Jiddu Dali
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  OMG Ali said he was in the best shape of his life when he fought Holmes. Ali's team said that they would beat Holmes. That Holmes was not as good as Ali. So just cuz Ali said he was in the best shape of his life and Ali team said he could beat Holmes. But, at the end of the night Holmes puts a whoopin at Ali. So was Ali and his team right?

                  Every single fight Oscar said he was in the best shape of his life. Was that true?

                  When Tito fought Roy. Did you think Trinidad was going to carry his power at 170? Did you think Tito was going to carry the weight well? Cuz I didn't and again after watching the fight I was right. But, did you think he carried his power up there? Did you think he carried the weight well? I really want your opinion in this.

                  I mean what is he suppose to say before the fight. Well know we not carrying the weight. Floyd is going to beat us. And, we understand we taking cuz is going to be our biggest payday. I mean is that what he is suppose to say before the fight? But, believed everything he said what true fighter doesent? What great fighter does not believe in himself? Well except for Floyd. Yes JMM said that and yes he probably believed all that. But, it doesent mean he was right

                  Again before the fight if I said JMM was not going to carry the weight well. WTF are you talking about? I said the size will matter. I said this before the fight. And, I was not wrong. JMM did not carry the weight well. I am sorry if you couldn't see it before hand. But, I did. Maybe cuz I been following JMM since his days from the forum. That I could tell he didn't have his legs under him at LW.
                  wow at u quoting ALI who was past washed up...and Tito who was retired and washed up and you're comparing Marquez at this stage to them?....alright man you win.

                  i respect your opinion and we will just wait and see what JMM does at 140lbs....

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                  • hugh grant
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                    Pac, you see, not everyone thinks you will win. There are people acting towards you and belittling you just like they did before you beat DLH. Now show RM that he dont know what hes talking about and ram those words down his throat.
                    Make him sqirm and see what excuses he makes if you beat Cotto.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                      lol..son I am older than you, and have alot of those fighters you refer too i have them on tape and or dvd (transfered)....

                      man you are still spilling the same madness.....fact remains...NOONE KNOWS IF JMM CAN FIGHT @140....did we know Pac could fight @147 when he jumped 12lbs to fight Oscar? hell no!!! everyone thought the bigger oscar would beat him....

                      so why do you assume that marquez cant compete @140 or higher? because his legs arent as big as Pacquiao's?
                      You might be older than me but is obvious you don't know what having you legs under you mean. It has nothing to do with size. At all. Nevermind if you can't tell that JMM did not have his legs under him as a LW. Then you obvious don't see where I am coming from.

                      BTW I predicted Pac to KO Oscar. Just cuz Oscar was shot fighter. Oscar hadn't been a real fighter since the Mosley rematch. So i know Pac was going to win and predicted an 11th round stoppage. However, I didn't think it was going to be that easy. I thought Oscar was going to be competetive in the first 8 like he usually always is.

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