Real History: How Serious is Pacquiao’s Quest for Seven?

[BillyBoxing]

No, most people predicted a *healthy* De La Hoya to beat Pacman. Hoya was far from healthy, the man was a walking corpse. He weighed less than Pacman.

WRONG!!!
A fight is a fight.
If DLH agreed for 147,it's his own problem.It's because he tought he could make that weight.

DLH last fight was a dominant performance over the average forbes at 150 pounds.
Manny at 135 vs Diaz.
I guess a fight agreed at 147 was pretty honnest.

Oscar looked garbage against Manny,like against Floyd,Sturm or Hopkins by the way.
But Floyd hits like a Puss,Manny busted up Oscar's face to death and made him quit,lol.

De La Quitta had to lose 3 pounds more,Manny to move up AGAIN,against a big 147 pounders.

De La Quitta overlooked Manny,CHERRY PICKED a midget,and get *****slapped into shame and retirement,lonely in his GBP office.

I LAUGH.

[BillyBoxing]

And where did yu hear that lye that Oscar weighed less than Manny??

[kulasnimaan]

the catch weight stipulation is a business move on the part of team pacman. roach has already gone on record that they will still fight cotto if he weighs in at 147. this means cotto can come in at 147 at the weigh in and just pay the penalty for the 2 lbs, much like mayweather did to marquez.

[baracuda]

[QUOTE=Dave Rado;6629010]I guess they're counting his Ring and Lineal title at Featherweight.[/QUOT......true that.

[Dave Rado]

Pretty hypocrit statement.
******!
Cotto was a flyweight at 15??
AND??

Light Flyweight.

And so claiming that Pacquiao doesn't belong in a fight with Cotto because of what Pacquiao weighed when he turned professional at the age of 15 is ridiculous. At that age they weighed about the same as each other.

Manny was a flyweight at 20 years old,not 15,pretty different,and a featherweight,125,at 28 years old.

He was a Light Flyweight at 15. Every boxer fills out differently. Some, like Hagler, never increase in weight at all once they reach their late teens. Others, like Pacquiao, keep putting on weight into their 30s, without putting on any flab. Cotto put on a lot of weight between 15 and 20, then put on very little weight after that - whereas Pacquiao matured physically in a different way, much more gradually. But he is now a natural Jnr Welterweight, only one weight division lower than Cotto. Where they started from is irrelevant now.

So,I don't buy your garbage thesis,that Cotto and Manny are same size.

I did not say they're the same size, I said they're the same height and have the same reach, and that in weight terms, they're only separated by one weight class now. That's not a theory, that's hard fact.

[baracuda]

Light Flyweight.

And so claiming that Pacquiao doesn't belong in a fight with Cotto because of what Pacquiao weighed when he turned professional at the age of 15 is ridiculous. At that age they weighed about the same as each other.



He was a Light Flyweight at 15. Every boxer fills out differently. Some, like Hagler, never increase in weight at all once they reach their late teens. Others, like Pacquiao, keep putting on weight into their 30s, without putting on any flab. Cotto put on a lot of weight between 15 and 20, then put on very little weight after that - whereas Pacquiao matured physically in a different way, much more gradually. But he is now a natural Jnr Welterweight, only one weight division lower than Cotto. Where they started from is irrelevant now.



I did not say they're the same size, I said they're the same height and have the same reach, and that in weight terms, they're only separated by one weight class now. That's not a theory, that's hard fact.

thats garbage rado......ok how about 112 when pac was 19 a champion....ho w about we start there and forget about the ams....

[Dave Rado]

And where did yu hear that lye that Oscar weighed less than Manny??

Google is your friend, try using it. De La Hoya's fight night weight was 147, Manny's was 148.

[Dave Rado]

thats garbage rado......ok how about 112 when pac was 19 a champion....ho w about we start there and forget about the ams....

LOL, cherry pick away.

Pacquiao continually moved up on a regular basis, Cotto shot up to his eventual weight much more quickly. Different bodies mature in different ways.

Are you actually denying that Pac is a natural Jnr Welterweight now?

[p4p-champ]

Take off the ******* goggles and look at it objectively. You lost me at...

DLH last fight was a dominant performance over the average forbes

[KOKing27]

The thing is Cotto is a true professional, Floyd Jr. is a sideshow. I can almost guarantee Cotto makes the 145 lb limit while Floyd said "F**k You" to Marquez and weighed whatever he wanted to weigh. One is a professional, the other a poser. Period! God, I hope Pacman win's for one reason. Because while Floyd is bitching and moaning to get the upper hand pay wise, Pacman can go fight Mosley and then there is no-one for Floyd to fight except Paul Williams (which will NEVER happen) or possibly Margarito if he gets reinstated (which Floyd would also probably turn down)! Everybody's got to realize this. Without Pacman or Sugar Shane, Floyd has nothing....