Joe Calzaghe = One Of The Best Boxers Ever

[BEEHOP]

He is an all time great, certainly a top 30 and probably top 20.

But the sad truth is, he doesn't receive the recognition he deserves because he's white.

Agreed.

Sven Ottke is top 10 ATG.

[daggum]

No, I think he is an ATG based on what I saw of him fighting. He did not have the prettiest style and I don't think a pretty style earns people a great status. He had an undefeated record before gaining any International exposure and people said Lacy would beat him up, well Lacy got schooled.

People said he would never come to America and fight, guess what he moved up in weight and fought the only other guy to have similar achievements in the same weight division that he did in Hopkins- it was close but he made Hopkins resort to tactics that he would never had done against anyone else.

He then defended the title against the guy that at one time was the P4P best in the sport in Jones and dominated him. People can say he fought people past their prime but he was around the same age as them.

He beat Kessler, who I believe will win the Super 6 and then people will see just how good Calzaghe really was. If Kessler wins the entire thing, people can no longer say he is a "Danish Robot" with no skills. Calz fought who he had to fight; it isn't his fault that the division he fought at was not stacked with notable names like the welterweight division and he could not go back in time to fight the all-time greats of past eras, so what should he have done that he didn't do?

isn't it strange he did that when hopkins was old as **** and jones was shot? why didn't he ever move up and challenge the light heavy champ before? pretty convenient. hopkins holds and complains every fight if you've ever seen him fight not sure how calzaghe made him resort to the same tactics he always uses. that's like saying hopkins made calzaghe slap thin air like a schoolgirl. he does that every fight.

keyword was. now jones is ****. how does that prove anything? camacho is better than leonard then.

[The Hammer]

isn't it strange he did that when hopkins was old as **** and jones was shot? why didn't he ever move up and challenge the light heavy champ before? pretty convenient. hopkins holds and complains every fight if you've ever seen him fight not sure how calzaghe made him resort to the same tactics he always uses. that's like saying hopkins made calzaghe slap thin air like a schoolgirl. he does that every fight.

keyword was. now jones is ****. how does that prove anything? camacho is better than leonard btw.

Why do you hate and discredit European fighters, daggum?

[Spray_resistant]

isn't it strange he did that when hopkins was old as **** and jones was shot? why didn't he ever move up and challenge the light heavy champ before? pretty convenient. hopkins holds and complains every fight if you've ever seen him fight not sure how calzaghe made him resort to the same tactics he always uses. that's like saying hopkins made calzaghe slap thin air like a schoolgirl. he does that every fight.

keyword was. now jones is ****. how does that prove anything? camacho is better than leonard btw.

Awww c'mon tell us how you really feel about Joe

[daggum]

Why do you hate and discredit European fighters, daggum?

i don't. sven ottke is one of my favorite fighters of all time. zsolt erdei as well. why do you love all euro fighters? kinda smashes your credibility.

[S A M U R A I]

whos Joe ???????? he retired for a reason hes a ***** and scarred

And people say Calzaghe fans are crazy. It's posts like this that make me think his "haters" (sorry to even use that word, but I don't know how else to put it) really are properly mentally ******ed.

"He's a ***** and scared."

I mean... you can't even converse with people like that. I will bet this guy has never even seen more than two Calzaghe fights, and those will be his last couple, Jones and Hopkins, the latter being possibly the worst Calzaghe fight ever.


Oh **** this. Never mind. **** goes round and round in circles. And I'm wasting my time. One thing though -- Joe's receiving more respect now than he ever has. Quite a few people are starting to realize he wasn't as bad as they thought, so it's not all bad.

Whatever anyone says, I still dig Calzaghe, nobody can put me off. Great fighter, and I LIKE the way he fought. Dude fought like a cat, it was interesting to watch and really not cookie-cutter at all. Unique fighter.

Respect, Joe!



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No need to start fighting in here.

We all know Calzaghe is one of the best boxers of all time.

Top 20 or top 30, that is the question

[Freddy Krueger]

This topic is a bit ridiculous but Calzaghe was a great fighter who beat the best at 168 then moved up to fight number 1 ranked Hopkins and won in his first fight at lhw.

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This topic is a bit ridiculous but Calzaghe was a great fighter who beat the best at 168 then moved up to fight number 1 ranked Hopkins and won in his first fight at lhw.

Cool it boy, unwind yourself

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Top 20 is in the lead.