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  • IMDAZED
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    #181
    Originally posted by rao007
    Hey, you can criticize all you want--it's straight from the man himself, Oscar. Pacquiao's punches didn't hurt. His sparring mates dont' consider Pacquiao physically strong but the roids that worked for Hatton didn't work for Oscar? Os is it just because of his good chin?

    Go head, imdazed, tell me, is it HGH, anabolic steroids, steroid variant. But, no, you're going to say "research" it, look it up, or give me some anecdote.
    I can't believe you don't think Pacquiao is physically strong. And I can't believe you don't think Oscar was hurt by Pacquiao's punches. Not that it matters - even if it wasn't, he certainly was hitting much harder than he was at previous weights.

    I don't know. See for me, it doesn't matter either way. But I think you have so much invested in Pac emotionally that it's hard for you to think objectively.

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      #182
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I can't believe you don't think Pacquiao is physically strong. And I can't believe you don't think Oscar was hurt by Pacquiao's punches. Not that it matters - even if it wasn't, he certainly was hitting much harder than he was at previous weights.

      I don't know. See for me, it doesn't matter either way. But I think you have so much invested in Pac emotionally that it's hard for you to think objectively.
      No, i have NO problem whether Pacquiao does steroids--if he does, so be it. My MAJOR problem is people just throwing effing accusations out with no hard proof. That to me is my biggest pet peeve of all. I hate all the steroid allegations that includes PBF. Not unless numb nuts have proof about Floyd doing steroids--they should shut their pie hole.


      By the way, Shawn Porter, Rashad Holloway, David Diaz, Steve Quinonez, all said Pacquiao is not physically or atleast not crazy, steroid, strong.

      Rashad Holloway: "Not physically strong, but he's very explosive."

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        #183
        Originally posted by rao007
        No, i have NO problem whether Pacquiao does steroids--if he does, so be it. My MAJOR problem is people just throwing effing accusations out with no hard proof. That to me is my biggest pet peeve of all. I hate all the steroid allegations that includes PBF. Not unless numb nuts have proof about Floyd doing steroids--they should shut their pie hole.


        By the way, Shawn Porter, Rashad Holloway, David Diaz, Steve Quinonez, all said Pacquiao is not physically or atleast not crazy, steroid, strong.

        Rashad Holloway: "Not physically strong, but he's very explosive."
        I think the idea that Pacquiao is not physically strong is silly but what do I know? I'm not a boxer.

        Second, there's no proof, which is why everything discussed here is just circumstantial at best. But there's rarely smoke without fire.

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          #184
          Even Cintron knows pac is a roid using black fighter avoiding leprechaun.Athletes are experts when it comes to the human body and conditioning.Cintron was a wrestler and now he`s a boxer so he has far more knowledge then us when it comes to being an athlete and how the body act and reacts in certain situations.

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            #185
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            I think the idea that Pacquiao is not physically strong is silly but what do I know? I'm not a boxer.

            Second, there's no proof, which is why everything discussed here is just circumstantial at best. But there's rarely smoke without fire.
            That to me suggests--it's coming from his legs and not his hands as Rashad Holloway said Pacquiao does not have "thudding power" where you can actually feel it. Pacquiao's punches are more of a "what just him me" type of shot.

            Okay. I have no problem with speculation but in the end you need proof. The big head, facial hair argument about Pacquiao regarding steroids becomes moot as my uploaded pictures have shown. So we continue to discuss.

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              #186
              Originally posted by rao007
              That to me suggests--it's coming from his legs and not his hands as Rashad Holloway said Pacquiao does not have "thudding power" where you can actually feel it. Pacquiao's punches are more of a "what just him me" type of shot.

              Okay. I have no problem with speculation but in the end you need proof. The big head, facial hair argument about Pacquiao regarding steroids becomes moot as my uploaded pictures have shown.
              His power looked pretty thudding against Oscar and Hatton. And that's an Oscar who has one of the best chin's I've seen in boxing. And that swelling on Oscar's face said enough. But that's not really proof of roids, to be honest. I think there is a small group of people on these boards who heard this rumor long before Floyd Sr said anything - and so they aren't basing their opinion on the things you're mentioning.
              Last edited by IMDAZED; 11-10-2009, 04:33 PM.

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                #187
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                His power looked pretty thudding against Oscar and Hatton. And that's an Oscar who has one of the best chin's I've seen in boxing. And that swelling on Oscar's face said enough. But that's not really proof of roids, to be honest. I think there is a small group of people on these boards who heard this rumor long before Floyd Sr said anything - and so they aren't basing their opinion on the things you're mentioning.
                Oscar keeps reiterating that Pacquiao's punches didn't hurt along with other fighters. I'm no fighter but I will have to take their world for it. Also, wasn't Oscar dehydrated--those shots should've hurt even MORE.

                I'v no problem disucssing if Pacquiao is on roids but we need to make some solid arguments here, but I guess circumstantial evidence is all we can work with.

                Anyway, here are some more pictures.

                2005


                2008

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by rao007
                  Oscar keeps reiterating that Pacquiao's punches didn't hurt along with other fighters. I'm no fighter but I will have to take their world for it. Also, wasn't Oscar dehydrated--those shots should've hurt even MORE.

                  I'v no problem disucssing if Pacquiao is on roids but we need to make some solid arguments here, but I guess circumstantial evidence is all we can work with.

                  Anyway, here are some more pictures.

                  2005


                  2008
                  Thanks, I know what Manny looks like.

                  Just kidding but, like I said, not everyone discussing it is going by what they see on TV or what Floyd Sr said.

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                  • rao007
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Thanks, I know what Manny looks like.

                    Just kidding but, like I said, not everyone discussing it is going by what they see on TV or what Floyd Sr said.
                    I gotcha. here's my last one:

                    2003--Barrera 1

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by rao007
                      I gotcha. here's my last one:

                      2003--Pre-Barrera

                      Thanks. Not sure who you're doing this for but you're trying awfully hard. For your sake, I hope nothing comes of these whispers.

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