Is middleweight the WORST division in boxing?

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  • dans
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    #21
    Originally posted by PittyPat
    160, 154 and CW are the worst by far. Even 175 has some potential action brewing, now that Dawson has polished off the remains of those 2 old fogies he kept having an obligation to fight.

    The best division is 140.
    I like 154.

    I don't even consider cruiserweight in these type of discussions because it's almost always one of the worst divisions. The best that can happen is when you have a couple big names at the top. Other than that,

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    • The Hammer
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      #22
      There's lots of young talent at middleweight: Paul Williams, Matvey Korobov, Dmitry Pirog, Gennady Golovkin, Matthew Macklin, Daniel Jacobs, etc.

      I'd say it's better than light heavyweight, with most of the fighters there getting ready to retire.

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      • Roger Mellie
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        #23
        Originally posted by dans01234
        No, it really isn't. HW has gotten better while MW has gotten worse. Go look on boxrec at the names, terrible.
        Its quite sad really,as MW has a pretty rich history in the sport. I think its more than a coincidence that the SMW has just turned 20 years old and we find the MW division in the state it is in now. The jump from 160 to 175 is a big ask,but if you can get a title between that,then you can take your time coming up.

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          #24
          The irony of the middleweight division is, 8lbs above- you have arguably the best division in boxing (smw). It's a stark contrast...

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            #25
            Originally posted by Owlzfan84
            Light Heavyweight is pretty bad 2. you look at the top 6 and you got 4 guys who should retire, Chad Dawson, and a guy who will never step foot on American soil.
            LHW is picking up actually, you have Hopkins, Dawson, Cloud, Pascal and Diaconu as well as "second tier" fighters like Johnson, Tarver, Jones etc. Erdei is moving up a division so he'd not longer a LHW.

            HW has also picked up there are the two Klitschkos, Haye, Arreola, Adamek, Povetkin, Chambers, Valuev, Chagaev, Boytsov and Johnson.

            MW does seem to be the worst division in the more "high profile" divisions

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              #26
              Originally posted by Carnivore
              There's lots of young talent at middleweight: Paul Williams, Matvey Korobov, Dmitry Pirog, Gennady Golovkin, Matthew Macklin, Daniel Jacobs, etc.

              I'd say it's better than light heavyweight, with most of the fighters there getting ready to retire.
              The problem is not one of the guys you mentioned is proved at world level at 160 other than Williams. They all have the talent to do so but there are alot of steps before they reach that level.

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              • hammerhiem
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                #27
                Light Middle and Light heavy are the worst IMO with Middle a solid third.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BoxingPromoter
                  The irony of the middleweight division is, 8lbs above- you have arguably the best division in boxing (smw). It's a stark contrast...
                  SMW isn't the best it's just the closest with a few young kids in it.

                  it's the same top end as 3 years ago when it was "the weakest division" because a certain welshman was the unified champ

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Carnivore
                    There's lots of young talent at middleweight: Paul Williams, Matvey Korobov, Dmitry Pirog, Gennady Golovkin, Matthew Macklin, Daniel Jacobs, etc.

                    I'd say it's better than light heavyweight, with most of the fighters there getting ready to retire.
                    Andy Lee as well. Couple big wins from him and he'll be in contention..

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roger Mellie
                      Its quite sad really,as MW has a pretty rich history in the sport. I think its more than a coincidence that the SMW has just turned 20 years old and we find the MW division in the state it is in now. The jump from 160 to 175 is a big ask,but if you can get a title between that,then you can take your time coming up.
                      Great point. SMW is great right now, but many came from 160.

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