Haye's chin vs Wlad's chin

[Oasis_Lad]

Haye's clearly.

[Roger Mellie]

Im not so sure Wlad's chin is that big of a problem, its his heart i question, its like he gives up when/if he gets tired, he does not want to dig down.

Pride got Wlad up against Peter imo, what would of happened if Peter had been able to sustain what he was doing? i think he would of quit.

Wlad's KO losses stem from the distressed looks he gives off to the referee, like he does not want to continue fighting.

That said his chin is average at best.

Thats what I was saying earlier. Watch the look of desperation on his face as the ref leads him back to the corner after the Brewster fight,he looks like he is going to cry or something.

[keepthemhandsup]

But Haye has never been KOed.

guess anit no KO in TKO


but i get waht your sayin

[D-MiZe]

guess anit no KO in TKO


but i get waht your sayin

Compare Haye's only loss to all of Wlad's. The way they ended were much worse than Haye's.

Haye got swarmed and his corner threw in the towel. He went down a couple of times prior though.

[street bully]

Guys Wlad is probably the second hardest hitter in the division after David Tua. One shot is all Wlad would need, a right cross and Haye would be put to sleep.

[Roger Mellie]

Haye gassed against Thompson,who incidentally is a much better fighter than ross puberty,so you can actually compare that to the purrity debacle. Now you would have thought that Wlad,for all his much vaunted intelligence,would have learnt from that,but instead managed to gas after 4 rounds with Brewster. F.ucking genius!

[D-MiZe]

Guys Wlad is probably the second hardest hitter in the division after David Tua. One shot is all Wlad would need, a right cross and Haye would be put to sleep.

But, that's not the question..

One punch from Haye and Wlad would go down.

[keepthemhandsup]

Compare Haye's only loss to all of Wlad's. The way they ended were much worse than Haye's.

Haye got swarmed and his corner threw in the towel. He went down a couple of times prior though.

but wald loss to HW's that could acatully PUNCH and i bolded that cause people nowaday don't know what punch means.

david haye loss to a fighter he should had beaten. and the thing was he was winning the fight! and he was swarm, david was doing the swarming in that fight till his ass got tired .

but looking back on that loss...i say it was a bad stoppage.

[Johnny Rebel]

Thats what I was saying earlier. Watch the look of desperation on his face as the ref leads him back to the corner after the Brewster fight,he looks like he is going to cry or something.

Wlad just couldn't breath and he knew he couldn't coast for another 8 rounds as Lamon was starting to swarm him. Wlad foolishly tried to finish Brewster off and nearly did but he punched himself out in the process while still having the Sanders loss fresh in his mind and also not 100% confident in his new style that MS taught him. The rematch showed the difference Manny made in WK.

Wlad has corrected the mistakes he made against Puritty, Sanders and Brewster. Wlad hasn't even lost a round no less a fight in almost 5 years, he deserves some credit for that.

[Johnny Rebel]

Haye gassed against Thompson,who incidentally is a much better fighter than ross puberty,so you can actually compare that to the purrity debacle. Now you would have thought that Wlad,for all his much vaunted intelligence,would have learnt from that,but instead managed to gas after 4 rounds with Brewster. F.ucking genius!

Puritty was a really good fighter (much better than Thompson) that was tough KO. WK wasn't ready for a 12 round fight that early in his career.

Wlad did learn and hasn't even lost a round in years, that's dominance. Maybe if WK fights until he's 50 and doesn't lose a fight or round he'll be able to get credit for the improvements he's made. Haye hasn't fought a decent fighter that could test him so nobody knows if he's made improvements since getting KO'd.