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[Al Haymon]

I would probably about agree with you Al. I'd put him behind Mosley and Cotto at 147 for sure. I'd rank Floyd ahead of Clottey and Berto though so I guess I'd say I have Floyd as the number three welterweight in the world on merit. That said, I have him as the #1 p4p which may not be a minority opinion but certainly different than a lot of people so it's not like a disrespect Floyd's ability. But, Shane and Cotto are fighters and Floyd is a businessman and a boxer. He deserves a lot of credit but not so much for his welterweight resume

You look at it as I do, and I appreciate that.

• P4P rankings are based on perception of skill and ability
  
• Weight rankings are based on accomplishment.

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I heard that Pac made another face at Freddie Roach.

I heard that Al Gaymon is terrified of Manny Pacquiao getting more attention than Floyd Mayweather, so what he does is try to **** on Manny as much as possible, claim he's taking steroids, and generally act like a little bitchass to try to sway people's opinions on boxing forums, and he does this by trolling.



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[Al Haymon]

Pacquiao has done better than Mayweather in the last couple of years..except for JMM...but with all fairness Pacquiao fought JMM at a much more comfortable weight than Mayweather did..I say #2 or #3 P4P is a lil less ****-ryderish and fair..

Mayweather at #4 WW is pretty fair..

Eye,

If Pac and Floyd fought at 144-146, who do you have winning it?

[gattifan24]

Why 4 instead of 3 though? What welterweight not named Cotto or Mosley is above Floyd? I don't see how Clottey or Berto's resume is better than Floyd's at 147. Also, we certainly cant count Williams there in the rankings. Just curious

[Al Haymon]

Why 4 instead of 3 though? What welterweight not named Cotto or Mosley is above Floyd? I don't see how Clottey or Berto's resume is better than Floyd's at 147. Also, we certainly cant count Williams there in the rankings. Just curious

Activity.

Clottey has been actively fighting top WW's. Floyd has not.

[..WaRSpencE..]

Eye,

If Pac and Floyd fought at 144-146, who do you have winning it?

Floyd KO's Manny

I'm basing it off recent accomplishments and quality of opposition tho..

[jrosales13]

Activity.

Clottey has been actively fighting top WW's. Floyd has not.

Clottey hasn't beaten top WW though.

[3doorsdown]

Eye,

If Pac and Floyd fought at 144-146, who do you have winning it?

That is pretty ridiculous man. Judging by your analogy of how p4p rankings should work, it's almost merely based off assumptions. Yea ok, so what if most people feel Mayweather can outclass Pacquiao? Pacquiao has accomplished much more in these previous 2 years (please don't bring in PPV sales either though because I'm talking real boxing accomplishments) than Mayweather, and also I always thought p4p literally meant champions who can win belts in other weight classes. I think Manny Pacquiao is literally proving he is p4p number one, especially considering he is fighting the likes of Cotto.

[ELPacman]

Activity.

Clottey has been actively fighting top WW's. Floyd has not.

Where did you get your Kimmel quotes from? Did you watch a different version than the rest of the world? Just curious.

[Alibata]

Where did you get your Kimmel quotes from? Did you watch a different version than the rest of the world? Just curious.

hahahahahahaha!!!! I noticed that too but its no big deal. Al Haymon is known for making **** up. I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Pamela Anderson said she had to go because of her kids. She was never asked if she wanted to meet Pacquiao. That exaggerating ***** will do anything. It is funny to watch his agony that he has to resort to what he does. He is a consummate loser.