5 best counterpunchers in boxing.

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  • Red_Menace
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    #11
    Originally posted by dansweeney
    hopkins is up there
    Definitely agreed.

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    • NAB
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      #12
      PBF
      Toney
      Hopkins
      Tszyu
      Oscar (at his best)

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      • borikua
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        #13
        Floyd
        Spinks
        JMM
        Toney
        Chop Chop

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        • Run
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          #14
          Why does everyone think Hopkins is purely a "counterpuncher". He does distance himself well, and did show against Joppy and Eastman that he can counterpunch, but he is more of a planned fighter. He executes the motions, and leads in....throwing combiations, then backs out.

          If you compare him to guys like Casamayor, Judah, JMM, and others, they wait for the punch to come, and counter it. I think some people are confusing "slickness" with "counterpunching".......Two whole different things.

          Only as of late has Hopkins been "counterpunching". He used to not fight the way he does now. I dont remember him countering a damn thing Holmes threw at him.



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          Last edited by Run; 03-30-2005, 10:28 PM.

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          • Yarmez
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            #15
            I have to say tszyu is very underated as a counter puncher, and being from down under i see alot of Mundine (Who I hope Beats Kessler) and all he does is counter punch.

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            • Yarmez
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              #16
              Originally posted by Runw/knives
              Why does everyone think Hopkins is purely a "counterpuncher". He does distance himself well, and did show against Joppy and Eastman that he can counterpunch, but he is more of a planned fighter. He executes the motions, and leads in....throwing combiations, then backs out.

              If you compare him to guys like Casamayor, Judah, JMM, and others, they wait for the punch to come, and counter it. I think some people are confusing "slickness" with "counterpunching".......Two whole different things.

              Only as of late has Hopkins been "counterpunching". He used to not fight the way he does now. I dont remember him countering a damn thing Holmes threw at him.
              Couldn't agree more with you, i have followed Nard alot and have only noticed as of late he counterpunches more than he ever has, he is old school, he can get in there and do the dirty stuff, or just pick yhou apart from the outside, but lately counterpunching is another string to his bow, i have also noticed in sparring Tszyu is counterpunching alot more.

              Must be age.

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              • Run
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                #17
                Originally posted by Yarmez
                he is old school, he can get in there and do the dirty stuff, or just pick yhou apart from the outside, .
                I think that is what he does..."purely". He used to not rely on his counterpunching ability, only as of late. Ever since the Tito fight I suppose. And yes, you are right about the age thing....I think that is the reason for this change in style.

                Juan Manuel Marquez is the best counterpuncher in boxing, IMO. He relies SOLELY on that attribute to be successful. Toney definitely deserves some mention.



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                Last edited by Run; 03-30-2005, 10:55 PM.

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                • Stickman
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                  #18
                  Good list Runw/Knives. Marquez is clearly the best of those. Another one who's "newly aquired" countering skills should be mentioned is Corrales. For someone who very recently was known only as a slugger, he's improved by leaps and bounds in skills. Goosen knows his ****.


                  About Marquez.....I just love to watch the guy in action. He turns counterpunching into a damned art. It's a joy to watch him work.

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                  • Shaolin Bushido
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                    1. James "Lights Out" Toney
                    2. Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins
                    3. Chris Byrd (even though they aren't hard counters.)
                    4. Fernando Vargas was pretty good to me also at counter-punching, I always liked how he paused and seemed to be thinking in the fight..
                    5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                    Like em all cept Vargas. He looks good against mediocre mofos but ... naaaaaaah.

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                    • Solo322
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                      #20
                      How bout roy jones? he'd back up and throw the "check left hook" like nobody's business against most people who tried to pressure him.

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