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  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #41
    Originally posted by -0-
    i am.

    i see a solid big man that would complement pau and get along with the team chemistry wise.



    i lose sleep over overpaying an overrated hype job bynum who gets hurt every year and bitches and whines about touches as if he's somebody.


    he wears purple and gold and is averaging 20-10 right now...until he ****s the team up, i root for him


    and da****outtahere with you losing sleep....you dont sleep til weekends anyways

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    • WhoreUs
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      #42
      Originally posted by Makavelli
      he wears purple and gold and is averaging 20-10 right now...until he ****s the team up, i root for him


      and da****outtahere with you losing sleep....you dont sleep til weekends anyways
      i wouldn't be an insomniac if we had marc gasol.

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      • fightfan_79
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        #43
        Originally posted by horge
        Tell THAT to the *****s quacking PPV and gate figures all the live long.

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        • Zarco
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          #44
          Originally posted by koboy
          I'm going to assume you're calling Manny a hypejob.

          I don't think he is, at all. First, he did win the fights and in spectacular fashions. Plus, he exceeded expectations with the way he won the ODLH and Hatton fights. I dont' think anybody thought he could win against ODLH and KTFO Hatton in 2. If you really think about it, he was underrated on those 2 fights. A hypejob is someone who's supposed to exceed expectations and then fail in delivering them, just like Benny and Cindy's movie. They were probably watching an M. Night Shamalayan movie. lol. Manny is not a hypejob at all. Even if you assess his career, I don't think he was expected to win 4 lineals or become a multidivision titleholder. That's hardly a hypejob.

          I do think, Cotto is being underrated for their Nov 14th tussle. Although I'm rooting for Manny, I think Cotto's too big and too durable for Pacquiao. I think he's going to hurt Manny early.

          I'm hoping Manny proves me wrong, though. Again.
          no compadre. alls my statement read was that people get caught up in the hype of an event, just like movies. of course people are going to talk before, then opinions will be born after. the writter of the article has no logic or reasoning to sit there and make an article that he thinks will make him look good in the critical department.

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          • Burner
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            #45
            Originally posted by fightfan_79
            Intersting take from Bryan Brennan - Writer for ********boxing.....

            When a fighter looks as good as Pac-man has his past few fights, it's easy for people to discredit his opponents, but it's always after he destroys them that they are discredited, not before. Ricky Hatton looked like a new man when he stopped Paulie Malignaggi, now people talk about him as if he were an average club fighter and it’s all because of how Pac-man ended the fight. Weight drained, washed up, shell of a fighter, these are all the things Oscar De La Hoya was AFTER he fought Pacquiao, NOT before. I am finding a common theme to Pacquiao's opponents lately! Even when he fought Morales a few pounds ago, Morales beat Pacquiao fair and square in their first fight, then suddenly was washed up over night for their next two. Is it out of the question that Pacquiao is one of those special athletes that raises his game as he continues his career? He is only thirty, it's not like he is an old dog that can't learn new tricks,

            Pretty good prospective.....don't really care for discussion.....just wanted to get this out there for the haters....I'll try to find some positivity for ALL FIGHTERS....
            Facts...........

            Oscar was a zombie.

            Diaz was terrible.

            Hatton fought like he never boxed before.

            Cotto isnt allowed to weigh in at 147.

            FACTS.

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            • fightfan_79
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              #46
              Originally posted by Zarco
              no compadre. alls my statement read was that people get caught up in the hype of an event, just like movies. of course people are going to talk before, then opinions will be born after. the writter of the article has no logic or reasoning to sit there and make an article that he thinks will make him look good in the critical department.
              I only took the paragraph regarding the "dis-crediting" sriously becuase it was a valid point....did anyone sane pick Pacquiao to make DLH quit? Hell no. I picked Pac to box DLH and get the UD....but never did I think would DLH quit...but I didn't think DLH would be coming in as a Resident Evil zombie...but did Pac...no...like he says..."I'm just doing my job".....and people dis-credit that win becuase of DLHs performance. I give Pac about a 5 out of 10 for the DLH win. But regading Hatton...c'mon....even the biggest haters out there have to give Pac at least a 8 of 10 performance wise. 3 KDs...all flush....in under 3 rounds????? And all of a sudden AFTER the fight...Hatton is a "club level fighter" at best? So that means Floyd's victory against him was meaningless too? (I thought both performances were great).

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              • fightfan_79
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                #47
                Originally posted by Burner
                Facts...........

                Oscar was a zombie.

                Diaz was terrible.

                Hatton fought like he never boxed before.

                Cotto isnt allowed to weigh in at 147.

                FACTS.
                So Pacquiao is still an underacheiver a Burner?

                Oscar a zombie. Pac's fault?

                Diaz terrible. Pac's fault? But he did last longer than DLH and Hatton....

                Hatton fought like he never boxed before. Who trained him?

                Cotto isn't allowed to weigh in at 147. I agree with that...but cutting 1 more pound from the Clottey fight wisn't going to do Cotto any harm....just stay off the pinche's...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by koboy
                  Why so mad? And easy on the name calling douchebag!

                  The point of the writer was everyone didn't give him a chance against Oscar, you included, ***wad, and when he easily dismantled Oscar, everyone was discrediting the easy win, that goes for you, you gutless POS.

                  The fact is, he went in there, without knowing what condition Oscar was in and gave him a beating.

                  Here's the ultimate irony - Hatton who discredited Pacs win over ODLH was KTFO in 2 rounds. Hatton is now discrediting PAC's annihilation of him and says that if he only had a couple of more rounds, he would have beaten Manny. He can't believe that a small Asian man from a small 3rd world island beat him and ODLH so badly. They just won't accept it, which is the point I'm trying to make.

                  Sure, JMM could've beaten that version of ODLH but Pacquiao actually did it. Now take something for your period and chill. Tool bag!

                  Pac as a person could care less who he faces but why not fight oscar at 154?
                  cause he knew he would get killed
                  so lets drain him and beat a zombie
                  Freddy has come out and said they did it on purpose
                  do your reseach tard!
                  Oscar wanted a paycheck and thats why he agreed to the fight

                  You are giving pac credit where none is due
                  now the hatton fight is a total different story
                  After he gets killed by Cotto in 8 days then you and his fan boys can come up with all the excuses

                  If cotto gets hattoned then we will bow to the legend that is pac

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #49
                    People get caught up when someone looks overly impressive. That is just how things work.

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                    • koboy
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chuckguy
                      You are giving pac credit where none is due
                      now the hatton fight is a total different story
                      After he gets killed by Cotto in 8 days then you and his fan boys can come up with all the excuses
                      The point is not about giving credit to Pac but DIScrediting Pac's achievements after he wasn't supposed to 1) win against Oscar and 2) put Hatton to sleep in 2.

                      You obviously can't comprehend what the article is all about, Einstein. Or is it Stephen Hawking?

                      I ain't no Pac fanboy and I'm actually picking Cotto to win by TKO. Too big and too durable. Not to mention, great timing and pretty good boxing skills. I am rooting for Manny for sentimental reasons, ie. making boxing history, once again.

                      Just because I posted on a thread that mentioned Manny, it doesn't mean I'm a fanboy. But one thing we're sure of, however, is that you're a Pac hater. That's just too much hate for a little girl like you. Now put your panties back on and go take that Midol.

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