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  • BoxingChaos
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    #11
    Originally posted by street bully
    I don't think so. Cotto has a decent jab, but come on, it isn't a Vernon Forrest type of a jab that will shut your offense down, or a Ike Quartey jab that will discombobulate you, or a Winky Wright jab that will nullyfy your attack.
    Well considering Cotto dropped Clottey with a jab, I think you are dismissing Cotto's jab a little bit too much. Cotto out Jabbed Shane Mosley on the night of their fight too.

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    • mrboxer
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      #12
      Originally posted by Left2body
      Pacquiao's in and out style? One of the most explosive and best tools in Pacquaio's arsenal is quickness of feet and darting in with bomb's and quick combinations then darting back out.

      Cotto has a very stiff and well timed jab. A big part of the fight will be if Cotto can neutralize Pac's darting in and out with his jab or will Pac be able to consistently shoot a left hand counter when Cotto (who sometimes drops his right when he jabs) when Cotto jabs? Making Cotto tentative in throwing it with conviction?
      but will this synopsis have something or anything to do with the out come of the fight come nov 14,and if so would this thorough review that you display be a plus for either pugilist or will it advantage one and disadvantage the other,

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      • AllEyesOpen
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        #13
        Originally posted by Left2body
        Pacquiao's in and out style? One of the most explosive and best tools in Pacquaio's arsenal is quickness of feet and darting in with bomb's and quick combinations then darting back out.

        Cotto has a very stiff and well timed jab. A big part of the fight will be if Cotto can neutralize Pac's darting in and out with his jab or will Pac be able to consistently shoot a left hand counter when Cotto (who sometimes drops his right when he jabs) when Cotto jabs? Making Cotto tentative in throwing it with conviction?
        Although I do think Cotto has a stiff, hard jab and very good timing on it, Pac fights with a difficult rythm to time. what will make the major difference in this fight at least IMO is Pac all around speed, he'll be in and out all night and Cotto's best bet is to get him to ropes and unload everytime he does.

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        • Exciterx30
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          #14
          Originally posted by BoxingChaos
          Cotto's jab will be effective in the fight. Cotto will look to be swift on his feet from time to time too. Cotto will try to give Manny different angles and will use the right hand more in this fight. Cotto will be well suited to not try to sit down on his hooks until he has made Manny show some respect. Follow that up with switching from South Paw to orthodox from time to time and we will have a nice little fight. Cotto just has to make sure he does not give Manny any opportunity to **** his cannons from outside and catch him flush. It took Marquez a minute to figure that out but he adjusted despite being dropped early in the fight. If I were Cotto, as soon as I hit the body and Manny tries to pose by throwing his gloves in the air, I would use that window of opportunity to strike him hard. Do not sit there and admire your work. Some one like Floyd would eat that kind of silly Manny behavior up with two or three bombs.
          That "hands in the air" thing something that is completely unnecessary and I wonder why none of Pacquiao's opponents has attacked him right there. He already got hit, what's the point of risking a big punch there? It would be interesting to see if Cotto will be like the others or if he will attack.

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          • street bully
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            #15
            Originally posted by BoxingChaos
            Well considering Cotto dropped Clottey with a jab, I think you are dismissing Cotto's jab a little bit too much. Cotto out Jabbed Shane Mosley on the night of their fight too.
            To be frank with you, the fact that Clottey was sliding over wet paint, had his legs lined up, and walked through haymakers with a smile while being "dropped" by a jab shows you what led to him being drobbed. Also Shane doesn't even use the ****ing jab, that punch doesn't even exist in his arsenel, and he only brought it out against marharito (probably because Naazim told him too). I mean Ricardo mayorga threw more jabs against mosley, it isn't hard to do.

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            • street bully
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              #16
              Originally posted by Exciterx24
              That "hands in the air" thing something that is completely unnecessary and I wonder why none of Pacquiao's opponents has attacked him right there. He already got hit, what's the point of risking a big punch there? It would be interesting to see if Cotto will be like the others or if he will attack.
              If you haven't noticed, he does it after he is hit and gets out of range.

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              • WhoreUs
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                #17
                cotto ain't doing **** but get ktfo.

                if cotto's lucky , he'll lose by decision.

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                • Syf
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Left2body
                  Pacquiao's in and out style? One of the most explosive and best tools in Pacquaio's arsenal is quickness of feet and darting in with bomb's and quick combinations then darting back out.

                  Cotto has a very stiff and well timed jab. A big part of the fight will be if Cotto can neutralize Pac's darting in and out with his jab or will Pac be able to consistently shoot a left hand counter when Cotto (who sometimes drops his right when he jabs) when Cotto jabs? Making Cotto tentative in throwing it with conviction?
                  they have equal arm reach. Manny's jab is faster. I just recently saw footage of Manny and that jab of his is a laser.

                  They may cancel each other out, or Manny may even have the advantage in the jab department for getting his off first.

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                  • Rich Lοc
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                    #19
                    What do you think this is? Some kind of Boxing forum ?

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                    • Left2body
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      I don't think so. Cotto has a decent jab, but come on, it isn't a Vernon Forrest type of a jab that will shut your offense down, or a Ike Quartey jab that will discombobulate you, or a Winky Wright jab that will nullyfy your attack.
                      Its not really to destroy Pac but to get his timing off and disrupt some of his darting in. But like you said Pac uses a lot of angles so it has to be used smartly but it will probably be Cotto's best weapon Nov. 14th.

                      Originally posted by Exciterx24
                      I think it can work when/if Pacquiao starts to bullrush him. In that case, Cotto can time the jab and interrupt Pacquiao's attacks. If Pacquiao fights in a more controlled way, I don't know if Cotto's jab will mess up Manny's rhythm. Instead, Cotto could use his jab to score points, not to set up right crosses.
                      Yeah, agree with you there. More of a point getter on its own than a setup punch.

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