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Monte Barrett: "Nikolai Valuev Will Beat David Haye"

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  • #11
    I get everything you said there Ravens, but dont you think Valuev was utterly terrible against Holyfield and Chagaev?

    I mean Valuev stank the place up and both fighters gave the blueprint of how a smaller guy can beat him in my opinion.

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    • #12
      Sounds like Monte wasn't all that impressed w/ Wladdy's power.

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      • #13
        Haye

        Haye is giving up too much size to beat the gaint

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        • #14
          Haye and Wlad has equal power?!? .....interesting to know!!

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          • #15
            Interesting what he said about Haye and Wlad...that they have the same type of power. That they have power but not heavy-handed but lots of pop in their punches. Hmmm...I wonder who Barrett consider to be heavy-handed?Has he ever fought any heavy-handed boxers? Probably Hasim Rahman.

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            • #16
              i think that barrett hates haye

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              • #17
                haye is by far the fastest h,w since roy jones barret got ***** slapped the whole fight barrets is a pub fighter always has beenwith brain damage not worth listenin to anythink he has to say him fallin into the ring to face haye said it all the big dope

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by King_Lukas View Post
                  I get everything you said there Ravens, but dont you think Valuev was utterly terrible against Holyfield and Chagaev?

                  I mean Valuev stank the place up and both fighters gave the blueprint of how a smaller guy can beat him in my opinion.
                  I don't know what was up with Valuev when he fought Holyfield maybe he respected him to much or maybe he had an off night. But, what I do know is Haye is not Holyfield and in my opinion Haye does not even have close to the boxing skills that even a 46 year Holyfield has. To me Haye is little more then a brawler with fast hands. And as I stated earlier I believe most of his power comes from winging his punches. And if anyone took a serious look at his career his record would indicate that he is not as good a fighter as all the hoopla would suggest.

                  So let us go ahead and take a serious look at Haye's career. He fought an old fighter in Thompson who he beat around the ring until Thompson knocked him out. The very limited and old Italian Fragomeni hit him and hit him often while extending him into the ninth round, and if I remember correctly the Italian blooded him up pretty good. And by the way Frag only has I believe ten KO's in almost thirty fights. So, who knows what might have happened if he any power. Then Haye wins the title from an old Mormeck, who has not fought since. And in Hayes only defense he knocks out class jaw Big Macc. Who in turn gets knocked out in two of his next three fights including one by a fighter who happens to have just six ko's in fourteen fights. I will say that Haye deserves credit for unifying the belts but he was never the undisputed champ that he claims he was. So, please someone point out to me when and where Haye dominated the Crusierweight division? Now, let us move onto Monte Barrett.

                  I have stated before on this forum that I vividly remember that Monte was thought of as an undeserving challenger to Wlads belt when he fought him nine years ago. So, I have to ask what had Barrett done in the last nine years that warranted him being a world class heavyweight contender that moved Haye into a position to fight for the title? Well, I for one am not sure so let us take a look at his record.

                  Since Monte lost to Wlad he has lost to any fighter who even remotely resembles a world class fighter, to include someone named Baby Joe. Monte also lost to a fighter named Cliff Couser. As of now Couser's record stands at a very imposing 26(14)-20(11). His win over Monte happened to be his only win in a twelve fight losing streak which included him being stopped eight times. And if anyone cares Couser knocked Monte cold within two rounds. In fairness to Monte he did stop Cliff in a rematch but does it really matter. However, it does not stop there.

                  In fairness to Haye I thought I would take a look at what course Monte's career has taken since their fight. And just a few weeks ago Monte was knocked out in two rounds by a Cuban heavyweight named Solis. I will admit that I knew noting about Solis and found out that he was a great amateur before he defected from Cuba with Yuriorkis Gamboa. Solis's record is a good one at 15(11)-0 so I thought no shame in Monte losing to him. But then I realized that Solis who stands at 6'1" weighed in at over 270 pounds when he fought Monte. So, what kind of shape could this guy have been in? And on a little side note. When I read the information on Solis no where in the couple of bios that I read on him did it say that he beat Barrett. So, within a year of Monte being the litmus test for Haye to fight for the title, is he such an afterthought that Solis's bio did not even bother to mention him as a former contender that Solis had beaten? And if Monte was ever close to be a world class contender, or for that matter a fringe contender, it is obvious to me that those days have long drifted into boxing history

                  So there you have it. These are not numbers or statistics that I made up because I am not a fan of Hayes. These are the facts that surround David Haye and his opponents. However, in fairness to Haye I will explain why I am not a fan of his. My problem with him stems from the fact that he did little to dominate the cruiser division and moves up to fight for the heavyweight title without every fighting or much less beating a legit heavyweight. Also, in fairness to Haye, I also have issues with Adamek popping up in the top ten of the heavyweights just by saying he is moving up and then by polishing off the Polish knucklehead Golota he shows up in the top ten. What can I say, I always wanted to use Polish and polish in the same sentence and I finally got my opportunity. Anyways, I know some will argue that this is just how boxing works. That may be so but that does not mean that I have to agree with it. And after all Holyfield did it the old fashioned way because he earned his shot at what used to be one of the most coveted prizes in sports the Heavyweight Championship Belt.
                  Last edited by Ravens Fan; 11-05-2009, 04:52 PM.

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                  • #19
                    This is some sort of joke right !!!!!!

                    Valuev goes life and death with Barrett tagging Valuev frequently before Valuev finally puts him away in 11 .

                    Barret doesnt land a glove on Haye and gets dropped 5 times in 5 rounds and he predicts Valuev . hahhaahahahahahaah , what a ****in idiot !!!!!!!

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                    • #20
                      he didnt say wlad has the same power as haye you idiots. he said they are similar in that it comes from speed as opposed to heavy bones and muscle mass

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