Lennox Lewis: Great or Goat?

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  • fightcardproductions
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    Lennox Lewis: Great or Goat?

    Lennox Lewis accomplished a lot in boxing and went out on top, although he should've given Klitschko a rematch, but c'est la vie.

    I don't think he was all that great. granted, he got robbed in the first fight with Holyfield, but i feel Evander beat him in the rematch. the major hurdle that stands in the way of me considering Lewis great is his pair of fights with one Oliver McCall. he gets KO'd in the first fight and was so terrified of him in the first part of the rematch that i distinctly remember him practically sprinting to the other side of the ring when McCall feinted at him. of course, Mr. McCall suffered his nervous breakdown...Lewis wins.
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    I really think Lewis is a good fighter - not great but very good, that being said I really never liked LL. He is one of the only fighters I ever really rooted against. When I was watching the first fight with Holy I thought that LL handed him his ass. My dad was watching with me and he said - even before the judges decision came in he said, "You know he really didn't TAKE the title from the champ." Old LL was doing a Jawny Ruiz to Holy and the judges didn't buy it. It was jab grab - jab grab.
    I really disliked LL after the Grant fight - look at that fight and Lewis is holding and hitting ALOT. It is one of the most blatent and foul filled fights. I thought that LL should have been disqualified in that fight - but he was HBO's boy and Forman, Merchant, and Lamply didn't say anything - i guess forman said once when they showed it in slo mo "He got away with a little holding there..." but he quickly added "Grant shouldn't have ben down there."

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    • kapersky
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      he won the first fight vs holyfield and the second also. i gave holyfield round 234-or maybe 78 but it was clear that ll also won the rematch holyfield couldnt do anything, he did hit one another hard punch time to time but was mostly dominated by ll. mccall got lucky against ll and it wasent lewis primes, after he had emanuel his new trainer he became must better. emanuel must be a great trainer he was with moorer when more was light heaveweight,holyfield etc but always with winner(anyone know more about him?). ll did hold a lot and hit vs grant but the ref didnt said anything i guess its ok. so yeah lewis is one of the greatest,
      and was smart enough to quit on top. and i think he also change heavyweight size forever. before him it was mostly 220pound after him i think 250pound.

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      • Kimmy
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        #4
        Originally posted by kapersky
        he won the first fight vs holyfield and the second also. i gave holyfield round 234-or maybe 78 but it was clear that ll also won the rematch holyfield couldnt do anything, he did hit one another hard punch time to time but was mostly dominated by ll. mccall got lucky against ll and it wasent lewis primes, after he had emanuel his new trainer he became must better. emanuel must be a great trainer he was with moorer when more was light heaveweight,holyfield etc but always with winner(anyone know more about him?). ll did hold a lot and hit vs grant but the ref didnt said anything i guess its ok. so yeah lewis is one of the greatest,
        and was smart enough to quit on top. and i think he also change heavyweight size forever. before him it was mostly 220pound after him i think 250pound.
        How could you give rounds 2 and 4 to Holyfield in their second fight? I gave Evander rounds 3, 6, 7, and 12. 116 - 112. Competitive but lewis won!

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        • kapersky
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          #5
          Originally posted by Kimmy
          How could you give rounds 2 and 4 to Holyfield in their second fight? I gave Evander rounds 3, 6, 7, and 12. 116 - 112. Competitive but lewis won!
          u have right, i have forgot. i only remember that holyfield landed som good punch on lewis´ face. but overall lewis dominated totally.

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          • tri4ben2
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            The reason that people don't think of LL as great is because he never dominated (except Tyson) and he was always cautious. He didn't strike fear in people's eyes,.

            But at the end of the day, if you put 1996-1999 Lewis in the ring with anybody in history, his size and defense with the crisp jab wins rounds against any fighter in history.

            I have to admit, I rooted against him in about 5 of his biggest fights, but looking back, he knew how to win (and often did enough only to win).

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              Originally posted by tri4ben2
              The reason that people don't think of LL as great is because he never dominated (except Tyson) and he was always cautious. He didn't strike fear in people's eyes,.

              But at the end of the day, if you put 1996-1999 Lewis in the ring with anybody in history, his size and defense with the crisp jab wins rounds against any fighter in history.

              I have to admit, I rooted against him in about 5 of his biggest fights, but looking back, he knew how to win (and often did enough only to win).
              true, he is not as interesting as holyfield,tyson etc(except vs rahman studiofight ). but in the ring he always did what he could and should. in his prime he could easily beat anybody in history like tyson said he is too big

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              • Kimmy
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                True, but Lewis' problem was also his PR skills, or lack of them! He was arrogrant and big headed. He never gave credit to an opponent and when he lost he claimed the other guy was lucky. I didn`t like Lewis and i also admit, i rooted against him on many occassions and cheered when Rahman leveled him!

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                • TyrantT316
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                  #9
                  oh now being great is how interesting you are and your PR skills?

                  Lewis is great...end of story

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                  • Kimmy
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                    #10
                    Lewis was a great fighter, just a poor human being!

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