Floyd Mayweather Finally Loses

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  • djsygo
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    #11
    Originally posted by P4P Opinion
    When? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I didn't notice any contradictions. Enlighten me.
    1 Boxing changed because of you...and then...you are only 1 fighter. Which one is it, if floyd is just another fighter he couldnt ruin the sport of boxing from what it was in the times of ray robinson. Besides fights are made around money and legacy always come second...Pac vs Cotto gets made not because the fighters want it but because their manager (Arum) do.

    2 He said he fought Shramba instead of mMargarito for 8 millions...dead wrong, Shramba fight already happened at that time, he fought Baldomir for the undisputed title and 12 millions.

    3 He doesnt believe he made 12 million against Baldo..who is he in boxing to know that he didnt? Maybe he heard Biggie in a dream and telling him from heavens.

    4 Baldo with 11 losses. Baldo was in a winning streak and was the champ. He was bigger than Floyd and many thought he had the perfect style to beat him (Castillo like but bigger and hard hitting). Kenney at the time was taunting Floyd about Baldo. But then Floyd made it look easy so Baldo became a bum.

    5 Corrales the last time Floyd was in a real fight? Im sorry but when he went against Judah many thought he would beat him. Same with Baldo. Same with Oscar. Same with undefeated Hatton . All of them were his size or bigger. Even when he was calling out Gatti when he was at 135 ppl thought he could be too much for him. But then he made it look easy so all of them were bums, or over the hill, or too small (??).

    6 RA even questions his PPV power saying his biggest fight was with Hoya so it was his merit. So why he made that much against JMM? And why Mosley who beat Hoya even earlier than him never was a PPV draw?

    7 JMM was outweighted by 15-20 pounds? What you mean Floyd came in at 160? Come on now. But then again it was a tuneup after a long layout, only with a GREAT fighter unlike tuneups Cotto had with bums like Jennings (no disrespect but..)

    8 RA says Floyd won because JMM couldnt impose his power on him being overweight and sloppy? Come on he hit Floyd flush 3 times in 12 rounds! The fight was won on skills and if you will on reach, but to me JMM was the same fighter that fought diaz, its just that Mayweather is no Diaz on defence, reflexes, movement, power, speed...lol everything.

    9 RA said Floyd had no reason to be offended, what by disrespecting a great champion like Floyd with hater material?

    I could go on and on but im getting tired of it....but thanks for asking.

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    • Chups
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      #12
      I love listening to that battle. Ima have to hear it again tonight. Ownage at it's best. The DJ was saying what all boxing fans wanted to say to mayweather.

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      • Doorag
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        #13
        "finally loses"? he already lost to brian kenny.. more than once if i'm not mistaken.

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        • FraudMayweather
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          #14
          Ellerbe will make it all better.

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          • civicvx
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            #15
            Yea Floyd got smack pretty good. It wasn't a Hatton kind of KO but it was a Judah dance kind of KO. Great stuff though.

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            • johnm is...
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              #16
              Originally posted by Doorag
              "finally loses"? he already lost to brian kenny.. more than once if i'm not mistaken.
              Yeah. Everyone creams themselves when Floyd comes out of an argument on the losing end. At what point do people come to expect it?

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              • Stab Judah
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                6 RA even questions his PPV power saying his biggest fight was with Hoya so it was his merit. So why he made that much against JMM? And why Mosley who beat Hoya even earlier than him never was a PPV draw?
                How much he get for JMM?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by djsygo
                  1) This thread comes terribly late

                  2) You have a point in yeah floyd didnt handle that phonecall well but

                  3) RA had many info WRONG and contradicted himself a lot

                  4) Bottom line, Floyd is not fighting PWill because theres no money in it. Is not fighting Mosley to pay him back. When he called him out in 99 prior to his loss to Forrest (Undefeated, almost all KO wins) he dodged him. Mosley is also a cerified steroid user and cheating like that doesnt belong in the sport of boxing, even if the cheater looks like a good guy.

                  5) Bottom line 2
                  , its clear that Floyd came back to fight either Cotto or Pac, which are BIG fights either money and legacy wise. But being him the guy that generates THE MOST MONEY, you cant expect him to call those fighter out, THEY need to call him out. Did you notice they dont? Now i dont think they are scared of Floyd, but maybe ther handlers are. So they are combining other fights first to keep money in house.

                  There are two bottom lines??????hahhahahhaha

                  perfect example of Gayweather fan ignorance.....


                  and exactly what info did RA get wrong??? it's really ez to through out statements like that with no back up info.....maybe you have a point..maybe he did have wrong info.....why don't you share with us what that wrong info was???

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Doorag
                    "finally loses"? he already lost to brian kenny.. more than once if i'm not mistaken.
                    That was a split decision.....this one's a convincing KO.

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                    • P4P Opinion
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      1 Boxing changed because of you...and then...you are only 1 fighter. Which one is it, if floyd is just another fighter he couldnt ruin the sport of boxing from what it was in the times of ray robinson. Besides fights are made around money and legacy always come second...Pac vs Cotto gets made not because the fighters want it but because their manager (Arum) do.
                      Yeh, I heard this one from a video in another thread and while in technical terms it is a contradiction, it's like calling someone ****** for a slip of the tounge. RA is talking about fighters with the attitude of money first, fights second and Mayweather is the prime representative of this attitude. It was poorly worded by RA, but the meaning is still there. Not sure I can agree with you on this one.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      2 He said he fought Shramba instead of mMargarito for 8 millions...dead wrong, Shramba fight already happened at that time, he fought Baldomir for the undisputed title and 12 millions.
                      Yeh, the info was incorrect here but I can't see why you have confidence in the $12 million figure. We just don't know.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      3 He doesnt believe he made 12 million against Baldo..who is he in boxing to know that he didnt? Maybe he heard Biggie in a dream and telling him from heavens.
                      We just don't know which figure is right here. I'm inclined not to trust Mayweather on figures and boasts like this though thanks to the whole IRS situation. You can't say for sure that this is wrong info.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      4 Baldo with 11 losses. Baldo was in a winning streak and was the champ. He was bigger than Floyd and many thought he had the perfect style to beat him (Castillo like but bigger and hard hitting). Kenney at the time was taunting Floyd about Baldo. But then Floyd made it look easy so Baldo became a bum.
                      How is any of this bad info or a contradiction? This is just opinion and whatever some people may have thought before the fight doesn't change how purely subjective it is.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      5 Corrales the last time Floyd was in a real fight? Im sorry but when he went against Judah many thought he would beat him. Same with Baldo. Same with Oscar. Same with undefeated Hatton . All of them were his size or bigger. Even when he was calling out Gatti when he was at 135 ppl thought he could be too much for him. But then he made it look easy so all of them were bums, or over the hill, or too small (??).
                      Again, this is all opinion. No bad info and no contradiction.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      6 RA even questions his PPV power saying his biggest fight was with Hoya so it was his merit. So why he made that much against JMM? And why Mosley who beat Hoya even earlier than him never was a PPV draw?
                      You just can't know about any of this unless you survey every fan who bought the PPV. De La Hoya and Hatton were both huge draws beforehand anyway and Marquez had an entire nation behind him as Mayweather went to lengths to remind us before the fight. The Mosley lack of draw could be one or more of many things, like bad management, subsequent losses or simply bad luck. There isn't any concrete bad info here, just spectulation.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      7 JMM was outweighted by 15-20 pounds? What you mean Floyd came in at 160? Come on now. But then again it was a tuneup after a long layout, only with a GREAT fighter unlike tuneups Cotto had with bums like Jennings (no disrespect but..)
                      A fifteen pound difference is entirely feasible, but I don't have access to any official fight night weight figures here anyway so I can't really comment here. The last part of your point is irrelevant.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      8 RA says Floyd won because JMM couldnt impose his power on him being overweight and sloppy? Come on he hit Floyd flush 3 times in 12 rounds! The fight was won on skills and if you will on reach, but to me JMM was the same fighter that fought diaz, its just that Mayweather is no Diaz on defence, reflexes, movement, power, speed...lol everything.
                      ...and he only hit him three times flush in twelve rounds because? Quite possibly because he was overweight and slower than usual. You can't impose power if you can't hit. This doesn't matter anyway, because we're dealing with opinion here again. RA thinks Mayweather won because Marquez was overweight and you think differently. No fact to be had here.

                      Originally posted by djsygo
                      9 RA said Floyd had no reason to be offended, what by disrespecting a great champion like Floyd with hater material?
                      Ermm, what? How is this bad info or a contradiction?

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