Valuev is in big trouble !!!!!

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  • El_Cholo
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sparked_1985
    Chagaev has been on the slide. He was a talented Heavyweight, but I guess he has his own problems health-wise. When you're dropping rounds against Matt Skelton you can't be a great heavyweight. That said, Chagaev's left-hook would probably decapitate Haye if Haye was too aggressive.


    another thing: I'll have 20K on Valuev beating the Hayemaker if anyone is up for it. My head just keeps saying Valuev so loudly that my heart is only whispering Haye. Hayemaker is getting clubbed out of there down the stretch. Hope I'm wrong.
    20K on Valuev, I'll have some of that.

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    • Hitman932
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      #22
      Originally posted by thewinfella
      Chagaev would not and could not beat Haye to the punch in any exchange , he may win on the inside but thats it , his movement is slow and predictable , Haye hits harder and is twice as fast its a no brainer !!!!!!!

      Using your rationale I would pick Usain Bolt to beat Wlad Klitschko cause he's like 4 times as fast dude...........

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      • thewinfella
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        #23
        Originally posted by Hitman932
        Using your rationale I would pick Usain Bolt to beat Wlad Klitschko cause he's like 4 times as fast dude...........
        I like you Hitman because you talk ****e and sadly enough i like getting into arguments about boxing with people who talk ****e !!!!!!

        I dont pick fighters on speed alone in any fight or against any other fighters that would be silly , my point is this , Haye has a superior speed & power advantage over Chagaev who happens to be a light hitting slow HW , so much so that i beleive Haye would KO him .

        Why do you beleive otherwise ????????

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        • RockyB
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          #24
          Its a very open fight.

          1: Valuev KOs Haye (rather lucky, but fully possible)
          2: Haye beats Valuev by wide UD.

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            #25
            Originally posted by thewinfella

            I dont pick fighters on speed alone in any fight or against any other fighters that would be silly , my point is this , Haye has a superior speed & power advantage over Chagaev who happens to be a light hitting slow HW , so much so that i beleive Haye would KO him .

            Sadly Haye's speed isn't practically applied by him in the ring due to his lazy and flatfooted punching style coupled with terrible lateral movement. Maybe his hands are fast, but his feet certainly aren't and when he tires his offense gets wide open leaving easy opportunities for a well conditioned counterpuncher like Chagaev to take him down.


            I honestly can't see where you would get such a high opinion of Haye who has not really proven anything as a Heavyweight. Chagaev on the other hand has handed at least 3 different Heavyweights their first career loss and has been a solid 230 lbs his entire career. He has excellent amateur background and never lost his title in the ring. He is the rightful WBA champion and anyone who follows boxing knows that Valuev-Haye is a sham of a fight for a fake belt.

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            • beez721
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              #26
              Originally posted by thewinfella
              Big guy you must be ****ting me , Chagaev beats Haye !!!!!!!

              What advantages would you give to Chagaev in the ring that leads you to that conclusion ??????
              chageav would beat haye. southpaw stance,,,craftier,,better chin and stamina. chageav is no joke,,wlad just made him look bad

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              • P.WILL
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                #27
                anyone want to bet i got Haye hit me up

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by thewinfella
                  I like you Hitman because you talk ****e and sadly enough i like getting into arguments about boxing with people who talk ****e !!!!!!

                  I dont pick fighters on speed alone in any fight or against any other fighters that would be silly , my point is this , Haye has a superior speed & power advantage over Chagaev who happens to be a light hitting slow HW , so much so that i beleive Haye would KO him .

                  Why do you beleive otherwise ????????
                  chageav is not a light hitter and haye's power is still unknown at heavyweight. knocking out a shot weak chinned monte barret proves nothing

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                  • NakiFan
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hitman932
                    Chagaev would have the advantage in basically every single technical aspect of the sport.

                    He takes a punch better, he is much smarter, he is left handed, better defensively.

                    Easy fight for Chagaev, it would take him about 5 rounds to figure Haye out and he would be able to KO him with one clean punch.
                    I would give Haye a good chance against Chagaev, who is flat footed and a slow starter, and has been shown to be suseptiable to big punchers

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by thewinfella
                      I like the way you cut the bit out that makes you look ****in ****** !!!!!!

                      Chagaev would not and could not beat Haye to the punch in any exchange , he may win on the inside but thats it , his movement is slow and predictable , Haye hits harder and is twice as fast its a no brainer !!!!!!!
                      Haye picked Barett because he wanted to fight a smaller heavyweight who could move and was fast enough to hit haye.

                      Chagaev is flat footed and actually fairly stationary and slow for a small heavyweight.

                      He would be right in front of David Haye and hitting the deck at regular intervals

                      I don't like Haye but some people are confusing facts with fiction

                      I predict a late stoppage or UD to Haye if these two ever fought

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