Valuev is in big trouble !!!!!

[El_Cholo]

Chagaev would have the advantage in basically every single technical aspect of the sport.

He takes a punch better, he is much smarter, he is left handed, better defensively.

Easy fight for Chagaev, it would take him about 5 rounds to figure Haye out and he would be able to KO him with one clean punch.

Haye can punch, harder than Wlad? I don't know. But Haye would certainly test Chagaev, in fact I fancy Haye over Chagaev, too quick I feel.

[Uturn]

Valuev will be punished Saturday, i've no doubt about it. Valuev is going to get ****** all night, the sharpness and quickness of Haye will all be to much for the giant to deal with. It will be like cat and mouse in there...All Haye has to do is stay well away and land bombs at distance, in-out. Decision for Haye.

[Hitman932]

Haye can punch, harder than Wlad? I don't know. But Haye would certainly test Chagaev, in fact I fancy Haye over Chagaev, too quick I feel.

I certainly did not say Haye punches harder than Wlad, nor did I imply it. Haye doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Klitschko who was unable to seriously hurt Chagaev with any of the punches he landed.

Not a chance that Haye beats Chagaev. The fact that Ruslan was dominated by Wlad makes people think he is average but he is light years better than the undiscplined Haye.

The reason Haye has gone for Valuev straight away is because he would stand such a high chance of losing to any decent heavyweight and would stand little chance against one as seasoned as Chagaev.

[El_Cholo]

I certainly did not say Haye punches harder than Wlad, nor did I imply it. Haye doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Klitschko who was unable to seriously hurt Chagaev with any of the punches he landed.

Not a chance that Haye beats Chagaev. The fact that Ruslan was dominated by Wlad makes people think he is average but he is light years better than the undiscplined Haye.

The reason Haye has gone for Valuev straight away is because he would stand such a high chance of losing to any decent heavyweight and would stand little chance against one as seasoned as Chagaev.

nor was I implying, you stated though that Chagaev has a good chin, but was knockdown by Wlad and was finally stopped.

I merely pointed out that Haye can punch, but asked can he punch harder than Wlad.

And the reason Haye is fighting Valuev and none of the Klits was purely down to boxing politics.

[thewinfella]

Chagaev would have the advantage in basically every single technical aspect of the sport.

He takes a punch better, he is much smarter, he is left handed, better defensively.

Easy fight for Chagaev, it would take him about 5 rounds to figure Haye out and he would be able to KO him with one clean punch.

Im sorry Hitman i dont play the rep power game i just talk straight facts , and 147 posts makes me a useless boxing fan right ????? :****you::****you:

Anyway back to reality , Chagaev is an undersized HW with no speed what so ever , yes his ring craft is better than Haye's and he moves more laterally than Haye but he is tailor made for Haye , Wlad used him as a punch bag and should of KO'd him inside 5 only for the defensive first strategy , yes Chagaev is a south paw and is awkward but that dont mean **** !!!!!!

Haye has better hand speed is more skillfull and hits twice as hard as Chagaev , Haye stops him easily !!!!!!!

[Sparked_1985]

I certainly did not say Haye punches harder than Wlad, nor did I imply it. Haye doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Klitschko who was unable to seriously hurt Chagaev with any of the punches he landed.

Not a chance that Haye beats Chagaev. The fact that Ruslan was dominated by Wlad makes people think he is average but he is light years better than the undiscplined Haye.

The reason Haye has gone for Valuev straight away is because he would stand such a high chance of losing to any decent heavyweight and would stand little chance against one as seasoned as Chagaev.

Chagaev has been on the slide. He was a talented Heavyweight, but I guess he has his own problems health-wise. When you're dropping rounds against Matt Skelton you can't be a great heavyweight. That said, Chagaev's left-hook would probably decapitate Haye if Haye was too aggressive.


another thing: I'll have 20K on Valuev beating the Hayemaker if anyone is up for it. My head just keeps saying Valuev so loudly that my heart is only whispering Haye. Hayemaker is getting clubbed out of there down the stretch. Hope I'm wrong.

[Hitman932]

Anyway back to reality , Chagaev is an undersized HW with no speed what so ever , yes his ring craft is better than Haye's and he moves more laterally than Haye but he is tailor made for Haye , Wlad used him as a punch bag and should of KO'd him inside 5 only for the defensive first strategy , yes Chagaev is a south paw and is awkward but that dont mean **** !!!!!!

Haye has better hand speed is more skillfull and hits twice as hard as Chagaev , Haye stops him easily !!!!!!!

MOnte Barrett was tailor made for Haye. Enzo Macc was tailor made for Haye. Carl Thompson was tailor made for Haye.

Ruslan Chagaev would knock him out.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

All i hear is **** about David Haye is in big trouble Valuev is a step too far for Haye , Haye is getting exposed bla bla bla bla !!!!!!!

Cant people just put aside there hate for trash talking and Haye's big mouth and realise that a shot to peices Evander Holyfield just beat Valuev , this is a guy who in 24 rounds could not stop John Ruiz !!!!!!!!

This is a guy who has been beaten by Ruslan Chagaev !!!!!!!

Nikolay Valuev is getting KTFO !!!!!!!!!!!

Not really everyone is leaning towards Haye winning.

[thewinfella]

I certainly did not say Haye punches harder than Wlad, nor did I imply it. Haye doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Klitschko who was unable to seriously hurt Chagaev with any of the punches he landed.

Not a chance that Haye beats Chagaev. The fact that Ruslan was dominated by Wlad makes people think he is average but he is light years better than the undiscplined Haye.

The reason Haye has gone for Valuev straight away is because he would stand such a high chance of losing to any decent heavyweight and would stand little chance against one as seasoned as Chagaev.

Wlad may hit harder than Haye in 1 punch exchanges but Haye doesnt throw 1 punch like Wlad , he throws a variety of punches from different angles something we dont see from any of the current HW's also at a good speed too !!!!!!

The reason Chag never got KO'd or stopped is because Wlad does not throw punches in bunches or put any combinations together , he follows his jab with a straight RH every time , notning different !!!!!!

[thewinfella]

MOnte Barrett was tailor made for Haye. Enzo Macc was tailor made for Haye. Carl Thompson was tailor made for Haye.

Ruslan Chagaev would knock him out.

I like the way you cut the bit out that makes you look ****in ****** !!!!!!

Chagaev would not and could not beat Haye to the punch in any exchange , he may win on the inside but thats it , his movement is slow and predictable , Haye hits harder and is twice as fast its a no brainer !!!!!!!