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  • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    Exactly Floyd has beaten a legit WW before. I can't people forget about the Baldomir fight. What he should of said was Pac would beat a legit 'very god elite' WW. That is something Floyd has not done. Baldomir was lineal but he was not very good.
    i wonder why some people can't see this. his entire career was garbage till he fought judah(loses to everyone) and gatti(not a welterweight) and now his career is garbage once again. lost 2 out of 3 since with the win being a MD robbery over a journeyman.

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    • Originally posted by daggum View Post
      i wonder why some people can't see this. his entire career was garbage till he fought judah(loses to everyone) and gatti(not a welterweight) and now his career is garbage once again. lost 2 out of 3 since with the win being a MD robbery over a journeyman.
      Everybody really knows what level Baldomir is. Is just the Floyd fans try to make his wins better than what they really are. If Pac would of fought Baldomir those same Floyd fans would say that Baldomir was not really good. If Shane would of fought him those same fans would say Baldomir was not good. If Cotto would of beat him. The same fans would say Baldomir is no good. Margarito would of done it people wouldn't care. And, etc etc... But, Floyd fans try to make it better than what it really is. I mean he was lineal, so it helped his legacy, it did a lil for history, and helped his resume look better. But, talent wise he was not good. The version of Hatton that Pac fought was better than Baldomir.

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      • Originally posted by MASSMAN View Post
        Just as Floyd is denying Shane a big money fight, I am praying that Pacman denies Floyd a big money fight. This should upset all the Floyd fans. I am a Floyd fan as well, but boxing is bigger than Floyd and he needs to fight the best Welterweights!!
        Anyone FMJ fight is a big money fight. If he can get 15mil + for fighting JMM then all fights are money

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        • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          Everybody really knows what level Baldomir is. Is just the Floyd fans try to make his wins better than what they really are. If Pac would of fought Baldomir those same Floyd fans would say that Baldomir was not really good. If Shane would of fought him those same fans would say Baldomir was not good. If Cotto would of beat him. The same fans would say Baldomir is no good. Margarito would of done it people wouldn't care. And, etc etc... But, Floyd fans try to make it better than what it really is. I mean he was lineal, so it helped his legacy, it did a lil for history, and helped his resume look better. But, talent wise he was not good. The version of Hatton that Pac fought was better than Baldomir.
          LOL..How do you know it only went 1 and a half rounds..

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          • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Nobody makes a big deal on Roy Jones, James Toney, and Fernando Vargas. People act Like Floyd is the be all and end all in boxing. If it was found out that Floyd took steroids 7yrs ago. People would of been over it by now. All that we really care is for him to fight the best.
            well i didn't know Roy Jones was steroids and if he was that is messed up because i thought he was the man and one of the GOAT but i always said James Toney is wack after i found out he was taking steroids and Fernado Vargas is garbage anyway i didn't know he was on steroids either but they aint help his ass because he always getting his ass whooped and as far as 7 years ago i don't think that matters at all bottom line is this guy was taking steroids and fighting in the boxing ring thats someone's life and ur cheating you could paralyze them or even kill them and thats ok? i don't think so i think they should all be banned how can you say how many fights they really won? if they got drugs helping them knock people out i just don't understand

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            • Originally posted by handler000 View Post
              LOL..How do you know it only went 1 and a half rounds..
              I know cuz I saw Hatton-Malinnaggi. I know cuz I saw Baldomir-Cruz, I know is not good at all. At all. And, Hatton was undefeated at 140. And, Hatton 2 fights prior to Pac only lossed probably 3-4 rounds.

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              • Originally posted by King22 View Post
                well i didn't know Roy Jones was steroids and if he was that is messed up because i thought he was the man and one of the GOAT but i always said James Toney is wack after i found out he was taking steroids and Fernado Vargas is garbage anyway i didn't know he was on steroids either but they aint help his ass because he always getting his ass whooped and as far as 7 years ago i don't think that matters at all bottom line is this guy was taking steroids and fighting in the boxing ring thats someone's life and ur cheating you could paralyze them or even kill them and thats ok? i don't think so i think they should all be banned how can you say how many fights they really won? if they got drugs helping them knock people out i just don't understand
                Roy took a banned substance... But, I see where your point. But, the problem I have is when you and people say 'well if it was Floyd' If Floyd would get busted for steroids in his next fight. Yes it was a big deal. But, 3yrs from now we will not be talking or care about Floyd steroid use. That 'well if it was Floyd' are annoying. Cuz he is not the be all and end all of boxing.

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                • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  Roy took a banned substance... But, I see where your point. But, the problem I have is when you and people say 'well if it was Floyd' If Floyd would get busted for steroids in his next fight. Yes it was a big deal. But, 3yrs from now we will not be talking or care about Floyd steroid use. That 'well if it was Floyd' are annoying. Cuz he is not the be all and end all of boxing.
                  my thing by saying if it was Floyd is when Mayweather does anything they make it a big deal but if another fighter does the same thing they sweep it under the rug its just not fair how he gets singled out in the boxing world and everybody acts like he never had a hard fight or his accomplishments mean nothing its just not right because Floyd has worked hard for what he has nobody just gave him millions of dollars and 6 world titles and a undefeated record he had to work for that and for people just to act like he has done nothing it just shocks me

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                  • the reason why pac team dotn want 40% is because pac has to give up some of that purse
                    50-50 floyd still makes mroe money from the deal so thats why pac is trying to force a 60-40. but floyd has the bigger sales and bigger ppv buys. his last 3 fights made more money than prob all of pac fights combined. so for them to ask for more money is bs

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                    • Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      i wonder why some people can't see this. his entire career was garbage till he fought judah(loses to everyone) and gatti(not a welterweight) and now his career is garbage once again. lost 2 out of 3 since with the win being a MD robbery over a journeyman.
                      Have you ever seen Floyd fight at 130/135 before or are you just
                      riding I hate Floyd Mayweather Jr bandwagon? Some of the stuff
                      that gets posted on here is ridiculous.

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