Does pac hit harder than margarito?

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  • WhoreUs
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    #31
    Originally posted by rao007
    Yeah, he could but he couldn't fight effectively as Roach alluded in his statements. Pacquiao might have the build of 130 frame but the body composition, your organs, muscles, they need nourishment as cells mature. That's why they decided to move up. Can you ask Cotto to move down to 140 again?
    i bet you if pac got ktfo at 135 , pac would be fighting at 130 right now.



    i honestly don't know why cotto can't make 140 tbh. i know he's very thick and has a heavy build but he's quite small for 147.



    don't confuse CAN'T with WON'T or DON'T WANT TO.

    cutting weight is very hard.

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    • rao007
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      #32
      Originally posted by Oasis Lass
      i bet you if pac got ktfo at 135 , pac would be fighting at 130 right now.



      i honestly don't know why cotto can't make 140 tbh. i know he's very thick and has a heavy build but he's quite small for 147.



      don't confuse CAN'T with WON'T or DON'T WANT TO.

      cutting weight is very hard.
      The word I'm trying to stress is EFFECITVELY. Can Cotto and Pacquiao fight effectively at 140 and 130, and the answer from both of them is NO. FOr the Morales/Pacquiao II weigh-in---Morales looked gaunt. He made the weight--but was it the best weight at that juncture in his career? I think you know the answer.

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      • dibzvincent143
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        #33
        Ofcourse pac,margo can never one punch hatton.!

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          #34
          Originally posted by youaregoodactor
          well..I don't think so ..Unless pacquiao is the real god in boxing.
          Les just say that Pac has more POP..and POP is what will get you KTFO....Tony beats you down....its a whole other type of power.

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            #35
            Originally posted by rao007
            The word I'm trying to stress is EFFECITVELY. Can Cotto and Pacquiao fight effectively at 140 and 130, and the answer from both of them is NO. FOr the Morales/Pacquiao II weigh-in---Morales looked gaunt. He made the weight--but was it the best weight at that juncture in his career? I think you know the answer.
            they can.

            like i said......if pac and cotto was getting their ass whooped at 135 and 147 trust me they'd be at 130 and 140.

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            • rao007
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              #36
              Originally posted by Oasis Lass
              they can.

              like i said......if pac and cotto was getting their ass whooped at 135 and 147 trust me they'd be at 130 and 140.
              If that's what you believe. Ponder this, isn't interesting that at 140--Cotto was being wobbled by fighters like DeMarcus Corely but at 147--his chin is rock solid. Which weight would you want to stay at if you were Cotto?

              You're basically suggesting fighters can go to certain weights --where their abilities may be comprimised --because their frames could handle it.

              That's not the point.

              It's their body's ability to function at an optimum level for an elite fighter.
              Last edited by rao007; 10-31-2009, 11:19 AM.

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              • S A M U R A I
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                #37
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                didn't cotto just call pac a 126 lber?
                Yeah. Hatton did the same thing before he was almost murdered.

                Originally posted by Oasis Lass
                toney walks around at 250 lbs. does that mean he's a natural heavyweight?



                when a person says a guy is natural at a weight it's basically an opinion on what weight division he seems best suited for or best at.

                in the old days if you walk around at 155 , you're a natural middleweight because that's the size of most fighters in the middleweight division.

                in modern boxing guys walk around 10 , 15 , 20 lbs. or even more than the weight they fight at.



                i have no problem with someone calling pacquiao a natural 130 or 126 or even 122 guy. pac might have added a lot of weight but his built is that of someone in those divisions.

                if you look around the guys at 135-140 , pac has a smaller frame and shorter than a lot of the guys there.

                if you look at pacquiao's frame and height , who is he closer to? juan manuel lopez or victor ortiz?
                You didn't need to type all that. Pacquiao isn't a natural 130lb fighter right now. It's bull****. Let's not get it twisted. He can't even make 130.



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                • WhoreUs
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                  You didn't need to type all that. Pacquiao isn't a natural 130lb fighter right now. It's bull****. Let's not get it twisted. He can't even make 130.
                  man , pacquiao can bulk up to 175 and he's still a natural 126-130 fighter.

                  look at his damn frame.

                  look at all the guys at 135 , 140 and 147. the majority of those guys have far bigger frames and taller than pacquiao.

                  don't confuse walk around naturally weight with natural weight class.


                  take a fighter from 126-130 right now and look at their frame and height compared to pacquiao.



                  you're the one getting **** twisted.

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                  • Chunk..
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                    Ofcourse pac,margo can never one punch hatton.!
                    Pacquiao fans don't half milk that KO. He won't do that to Cotto! Fact!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chunk
                      Pacquiao fans don't half milk that KO. He won't do that to Cotto! Fact!
                      i'll bet you he knocks down or out cotto.

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