Team Cotto – Composing Their Symphony of Destruction

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  • prsi
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    #61
    Originally posted by mangler
    Nothin more to be said. Pac ain't a WW. Cotto better KO the lil guy or be shamed. And he better do it in 6 or he's gonna lose.
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    I never said it was gonna be a piece of cake. cotto is gonna have to take 3-4 punches to land 1, but that 1 is gonna crack pac's ribs.

    cotto is too big. if he lets pac get away with this one it's shameful!!!!!
    You guys just make me laugh and are some times pathetic.
    Base on your theory of "Shame" Marvin Hagler who was stronger and heavier and had a small reach advantage against Sugar Ray Leonard is a shame for boxing not only because he couldn't ko Leonard but he lost to a man that came from a 3 year retirement where he had fought at 150 and went to 160 to fight Hagler for the 1st time.

    Is Shane Mosley also a "Shame" for boxing because he couldn't ko a 2" smaller boxer while having more power and speed and a 7" reach advantage when he fought pricesly Miguel Cotto and not only that he lost to him also????

    Most recently is PBF Floyd a shame for boxing be cause he couldn't KO JMM who is 1" smaller has 5" reach disadvantage, weighed in 4lbs lighter than PBF (142 JMM vs 146 PBF) for the fight and was his 1st fight over 135 lbs in his career not to mention that PBF has more boxing skills, is faster, has more defense and is stonger than JMM????

    Like these examples are plenty in boxing history. The fact is that Cotto will be heavier and stronger but Pacman will be faster, always has more stamina, movements and a much better corner which will give him a advantage in possible strategies, while they will be sharing the same reach and will have only a 1/2" height disadvantage. It will be up to which of these great warriors can take impose their advantages while neutralizing the advantage of their opponent. That is what boxing is all about!!!

    With this said and the playing field leveled because of the advantages from both sides, why should it be a SHAME if Cotto loses or doesn't ko the current P4P king under these circumstances??

    Like I said before you guys make this sound like this is a peice of cake fight for Cotto or it is David vs Goliath.
    I'm rooting for Cotto but I give Pacman a great chance for victory bacause he does have the size, speed, stamina, movement to be in the ring with Cotto. Same chance of victory that Leonard had against Hagler and Cotto had against Mosley.

    SHAME on you guys for not beleiving that

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    • bigboss1
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      #62
      Originally posted by prsi
      You guys just make me laugh and are some times pathetic.
      Base on your theory of "Shame" Marvin Hagler who was stronger and heavier and had a small reach advantage against Sugar Ray Leonard is a shame for boxing not only because he couldn't ko Leonard but he lost to a man that came from a 3 year retirement where he had fought at 150 and went to 160 to fight Hagler for the 1st time.

      Is Shane Mosley also a "Shame" for boxing because he couldn't ko a 2" smaller boxer while having more power and speed and a 7" reach advantage when he fought pricesly Miguel Cotto and not only that he lost to him also????

      Most recently is PBF Floyd a shame for boxing be cause he couldn't KO JMM who is 1" smaller has 5" reach disadvantage, weighed in 4lbs lighter than PBF (142 JMM vs 146 PBF) for the fight and was his 1st fight over 135 lbs in his career not to mention that PBF has more boxing skills, is faster, has more defense and is stonger than JMM????

      Like these examples are plenty in boxing history. The fact is that Cotto will be heavier and stronger but Pacman will be faster, always has more stamina, movements and a much better corner which will give him a advantage in possible strategies, while they will be sharing the same reach and will have only a 1/2" height disadvantage. It will be up to which of these great warriors can take impose their advantages while neutralizing the advantage of their opponent. That is what boxing is all about!!!

      With this said and the playing field leveled because of the advantages from both sides, why should it be a SHAME if Cotto loses or doesn't ko the current P4P king under these circumstances??

      Like I said before you guys make this sound like this is a peice of cake fight for Cotto or it is David vs Goliath.
      I'm rooting for Cotto but I give Pacman a great chance for victory bacause he does have the size, speed, stamina, movement to be in the ring with Cotto. Same chance of victory that Leonard had against Hagler and Cotto had against Mosley.

      SHAME on you guys for not beleiving that
      agreed, great post

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      • peyk-peyk
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        #63
        Originally posted by prsi
        You guys just make me laugh and are some times pathetic.
        Base on your theory of "Shame" Marvin Hagler who was stronger and heavier and had a small reach advantage against Sugar Ray Leonard is a shame for boxing not only because he couldn't ko Leonard but he lost to a man that came from a 3 year retirement where he had fought at 150 and went to 160 to fight Hagler for the 1st time.

        Is Shane Mosley also a "Shame" for boxing because he couldn't ko a 2" smaller boxer while having more power and speed and a 7" reach advantage when he fought pricesly Miguel Cotto and not only that he lost to him also????

        Most recently is PBF Floyd a shame for boxing be cause he couldn't KO JMM who is 1" smaller has 5" reach disadvantage, weighed in 4lbs lighter than PBF (142 JMM vs 146 PBF) for the fight and was his 1st fight over 135 lbs in his career not to mention that PBF has more boxing skills, is faster, has more defense and is stonger than JMM????

        Like these examples are plenty in boxing history. The fact is that Cotto will be heavier and stronger but Pacman will be faster, always has more stamina, movements and a much better corner which will give him a advantage in possible strategies, while they will be sharing the same reach and will have only a 1/2" height disadvantage. It will be up to which of these great warriors can take impose their advantages while neutralizing the advantage of their opponent. That is what boxing is all about!!!

        With this said and the playing field leveled because of the advantages from both sides, why should it be a SHAME if Cotto loses or doesn't ko the current P4P king under these circumstances??

        Like I said before you guys make this sound like this is a peice of cake fight for Cotto or it is David vs Goliath.
        I'm rooting for Cotto but I give Pacman a great chance for victory bacause he does have the size, speed, stamina, movement to be in the ring with Cotto. Same chance of victory that Leonard had against Hagler and Cotto had against Mosley.

        SHAME on you guys for not beleiving that
        As always, excellent and unbiased post. Just ran out karma to spread but I’ll give you one as soon as I reload.

        Just sent you a gift.
        Last edited by peyk-peyk; 10-30-2009, 07:06 PM.

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        • cybertiledude
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          #64
          I like Cotto but, there is too much at stake working against him. Bob Arum knows that the Mayweather/Pac-man fight has the potential to be one of the highest grossing fights of all time. I just don't see Cotto winning unless he knocks pac-man out.

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          • edgarg
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            #65
            Originally posted by dorruel2.0
            team Cotto is all class, and i honestly cant wait to see the look on Roachs face when he sees Manny fall on his face from a left hook he never saw coming
            All the fundamentals lead to a Cotto victory. Unless....... Margarito ruined Cotto, or all the ridiculous "hype" coming from the MannyP
            . camp is, actually true.

            But, even if true, the real Cotto would be able to handle Manny. He's been through the fire of tough fights when Manny has been having it easy, with dried up, retired fighters [Oscar] or Hatton who , in my opinion, never recovered from KO ing himself on the ring post. That was a hell of a whack. I thought it would have broken his neck.

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            • edgarg
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              #66
              Originally posted by prsi
              And Pacman should hav no excuses for fighting a former 106 lber either. The fact is that none of the them are currently at 106 lbs even thought both were. This excuse is worn out Buddy!!


              It's curious how you take Cotto's camp words for granted about the best camp ever (which i don't doubt or dispute) but you don't take for granted Roach's and Pacman's words when they say that Pacman has his best condition and is stronger than ever.

              True that Cotto is stronger, but here are some more facts. Pacman is faster, has better stamina, more movements and a better corner. Those are no excuses, those are facts, Playing field is leveled and let the best man win!!!

              I'm pulling for Cotto also but you make this sound like it should be a peice of cake and it's not.
              It's because Cotto's camp has always shown integrity, and honesty, whereas Manny's camp has , through the "Macho" Roach, is a collation of whatever the Roach has in his feverish mind, and loose tongue, often very dubious.

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              • Osirus022
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                #67
                Originally posted by tesla_power
                Hope pac wins. Win or lose, I'm going to get drunk. hahaha. Great read. I just want a great fight.
                Lol im wit u on that!! Though im goin wit Cotto

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                • Osirus022
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Machingo69
                  This is definitely is going to be the best fight of this decade. Am very excited to see this fight. Am throwing a party at my crib with at least 30 friends, a 12 foot italian sub, **** loads of beer and whisky. Not to mention a $500 dollar cash bet with my girlfriend (She's rooting for Pacquiao).

                  I really want Cotto to win this fight. I feel that he truly deserves it and has worked really hard for it. Not that Manny doesn't deserve to win but Roach annoys the crap out of me. He should try to be more humble. I want Manny to loose just to see what Roaches reaction is going to be. He's starting to act like Mayweather Sr. LOL... Anyway... May the best fighter win... Win by KO.
                  no, i doubt that, if Pac loses i think Roach will accept the defeat and just simply say that he was too much for Manny, Manny wasnt fully prepared for a natural WW.

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                  • Osirus022
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by peyk-peyk
                    the lil guy will ktfo an overrated fighter like cotto.
                    @least we will live to see if that really happens!!

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                    • Luis12
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0


                      ****face? good one

                      Little guy don't you have to go to Pacquiao's ****sucking party up in the Pinoy forum? I suggest you put that midget ass of yours on the move or you going to miss it boy.
                      lmao....

                      one thing i don't like about SOME pac fans is that they speak about him like he's a god. do i have to remember his fights against morales, barrera and jmm?? you are all thinking in his last two fights. don't get me wrong....i'm a fan of pac but i keep things real. he's a man with two hands just like cotto. and cotto is no hatton or DLH. Did he hurt DLH?? not even once. DLH quit on his stool because he had nothing left...not because he was hurt.

                      this will be a tough fight for both and we will be the real winners. and i will give FULL credit to the winner.

                      oh...and stop the **** about pac being a former 106er because cotto started at 100 for the people that don't know.

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