Do you find it odd that someone who punches so slowly gave Cotto problems?

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  • Freddy Krueger
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Those were flashy punches that Cotto was landing but he was always fighting off the backfoot in that fight (Margarito fight) and fighting in that way makes it almost impossible to get real power on your shots (unless it is a real special fighter) that is why Margaritos chin looked to superb that night .

    Margarito was just able to do what he wanted and Cotto got nailed with uppercuts which has always been a punch he got hit with. Margarito was hitting Cotto with full power shots consistently while Cotto was hitting him with nice looking shots that did not have full power but they still took a lot of energy to throw. It was an awful fight from Cotto's prespective nothing went right for him and he certainly did not fight the proper fight while Margarito did what he does.

    Against Mosley and Judah Cotto fought much better fights although against Mosley he went into that backfoot fighting mode which is not good for him (it just looks bad). Against Judah Cotto took it to him which is the best way of dealing with Judah, against Mosley he boxed a little and fought some (it was a close fight) but he boxed effectively and Mosley can be outboxed though if he fought Mosley exactly like he did Margarito he would have had a lot of issues I reckon.
    How do you know he wasn't panicking because someone was hitting him with a deadly weapon in their gloves?

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #12
      Originally posted by Freddy Krueger
      How do you know he wasn't panicking because someone was hitting him with a deadly weapon in their gloves?
      I go with what I know took place and Cotto fought an awful fight. It is reasonable to suspect but I don't know that.

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      • baracuda
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        #13
        with a guy whos chin's like that....presure,pressure,pressure!.....thats why i think he'd beat floyd if he does what he does from the first bell...

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          #14
          Originally posted by baracuda
          with a guy whos chin's like that....presure,pressure,pressure!.....thats why i think he'd beat floyd if he does what he does from the first bell...
          His chin when down against Mosley because there was nothing to fear. Mosley just kept hitting him in that head, but he was being backed off cause of plaster.
          Margarito didn't even bother fighting the same way, because he lost his jab when he lost his plaster.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Ringlory
            His chin when down against Mosley because there was nothing to fear. Mosley just kept hitting him in that head, but he was being backed off cause of plaster.
            Margarito didn't even bother fighting the same way, because he lost his jab when he lost his plaster.
            smm is just a bad ass style for him......same as margo to cotto......miguel would get beat everytime plaster or no plaster......

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              #16
              Walls closing in on you in your head.. space becomes the issue not speed.

              Originally posted by Freddy Krueger
              But Cotto did much better against faster fighters like Mosley and Judah than he did against Margarito. I know Margarito has a high-workrate at times but he throws punches so slowly.
              Effective pressure from a guy who is towering over you with a stonehenge chin can probably make the ring feel like it's half the size, so no. You see the same thing in a lot of Margarito's fights. The ring looks like it's shrinking once he gets going. Even Paul Williams couldn't get away and he threw what, 1200 punches that night?

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                #17
                Originally posted by El Angel
                I think how he walked through Cotto's punches so easily demoralized Cotto. He couldn't stop him and it bothered him mentally. He could stop Mosley in his tracks with a shot, but Marg kept coming forward.
                well Cotto didnt hurt Margarito because its hard to put power into your punches when you are going backwards. Power comes from the hips and lower legs and when you are stepping back then you are relying on just armstrength to generate punching power. That it is important to sit down on your punches to get maximum power.

                Real talk, there are only a few guys in the history of boxing that didnt have to sit down on a punch to knock some one out. Arthur Abraham, George Foreman, Julian Jackson and Prince Naseem Hamed are the only guys I see no sit down on their punches and still knock someone out.

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                • Khalid X
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                  #18
                  Explosiveness is in the hips. If you ever watch someone dunk, a bit hit on the football field, or anything of sport such as boxing etc that calls for some type of explosiveness, you will see those athletes make teh same dip down and explode up or forward motion. If Cotto wasnt going backwards and was dipping down and exploding into his punches, those shots would have a completely different effect on Margarito. I may have not knocked him out but it would have pushed him back somewhat.

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                  • Ringlory
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by baracuda
                    smm is just a bad ass style for him......same as margo to cotto......miguel would get beat everytime plaster or no plaster......
                    Miguel was winning the fight despite the plaster, but the plaster got harder and harder. plus the early shots got to him. theres no way Margarito would've won withour plaster. Cotto almost made the 12rounds despite the plaster.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ringlory
                      Miguel was winning the fight despite the plaster, but the plaster got harder and harder. plus the early shots got to him. theres no way Margarito would've won withour plaster. Cotto almost made the 12rounds despite the plaster.
                      No he wasn't.

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