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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    koncz doesn't jack **** about boxing
    his prediction is more likely to happen than roach's

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    • #32
      This **** is so scripted!!! they got moore on the previous fight... now they have this guy koncz character in the mix.

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      • #33
        LOL. I can't wait for Nov. 14th to get here. Cotto is going to walk thru the much over hyped Pacquaio

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        • #34
          I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with Koncz. To think that Manny is gonna stop Cotto early is way to optimistic.

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          • #35
            Freddie Roach vs Michael Konez

            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
            Trainer Freddie Roach and adviser Michael Koncz do not agree on much. The two members of Team Manny Pacquiao have had an on and off feud, sometimes public, over the last couple of months. They don't even agree on their fight predictions. A week or two back, Roach made a prediction that Pacquiao stood a good chance to stop Miguel Cotto in the very first round on November 14. Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, who recently had a physical confrontation with Koncz, agrees with Roach's prediction, stating that it's possible if Pacquiao lands the right shot. [details]
            I have to say that after reading everything that has been going on with the Pacquiao camp and after watching the 24/7, things aren't looking good for Team Pacquiao and this could cause them the fight. Manny should remain loyal to trainer Freddie Roach and listen to anything and everything he has to say, after all, he got Manny where he is at today. Freddie knows how to work the game and without Freddie, you can kiss Pacquiao's boxing career goodbye! Freddie, It's disgusting having to watch you put up with this foolish behavior from your prize fighter. Don't let these guys tell you what to do. You're the reason why they got this far.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hotbox2 View Post
              what do most people know or have anyone ever heard of motivation? I guess not. What Freddie Roach is doing is motivating Cotto. Roach should STFU! If he wants his boy to win. It's such a ****** remark by Roach that Manny might knock Cotto out in the first round. Cotto could catch Manny with the good shot whether its to the body or head and knock him out in the first round also. So that doesn't make any sense on Roach. I hope Cotto knocks Manny because Im tired of hearing about this over rated fighter.
              In my personal guess, Pacman would win this match but would not KO Cotto in 1 round while Cotto in his prime today. For me, Pac win by UD is good enough for him. But Roach who knows boxing better so far predicted right in his last two previous predictions, that Pac will KO the favorite ODLH within 9 rounds and Pac did even better than Roach prediction because he made ODLH retired in his stool before 9 rounds begins; and he predicted to KO Hatton in 3 rounds and almost everybody laughed to his prediction including me to the extent many said he'd gone crazy because Hatton who was undefeated and a Lineal Champion at 140lbs is a natural JWW and I think have some weight against a new comer like Pacman. But Pacman shocks many when he KOed Hatton just in 2 rounds! actually out bested Roach prdictions of 3 rounds! Now, who are we to dispute Roach predictions when so far he was right in his two predictions???!

              And FYI, Pac is not over rated, he climbed to the ladder by disposing all titlists, former titlists and top ten world rated fighters while on his way up to supremacy! My guess, you actually don't know boxing much than I do or you hated much Pac personally, or both.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by illpapi View Post
                Is Manny overrated? It all depends. See, I have been a fan of Manny ever since he was on his way up and always found his fights exciting. I have no problems with Manny at all. However, what makes him look overrated is all the worshippers that somehow after he became a star got on their knees, brought him offerings and who knows what else. It's funny cuz I don't remember all these fans a while back but now it's Manny this and Manny that and a lot of them probably don't know Jack about boxing. See, I try to keep things as honest and as practical as possible. I am not one to act like there is no one in the DAMN world that can beat Manny like some of these clowns around here act. It's amzing to me and at times I'm puzzled by it but then I move on. I see things the way they are. Do I believe that Manny can loose to Cotto and it's also possible that Cotto can loose to Manny...it's boxing after all. One of my main concerns, of course, is how Manny handles Cotto's power (specially) to the body...that in my opinion is what will determine the end result of this fight. If Manny was a natural WW then it would be another story altogether. But we'll see how it all plays out come Nov. 14th. That's my take.
                Who is kneeling for Manny??! Only those fans who hates Manny or Manny's fans said this out of disgust after finding significant numbers of fans joined to Manny's bandwagon. They even said Manny for President! but if you take this seriously, you're lost!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Gabilan View Post
                  Hotbox was right until he made the mistake of calling Pac an overrated fighter. Right now he might be a little bit too overhyped, in the sense that Pac nuggers think he could beat anyone from 125-168 but he is not overrated at all. Pac deserves every accolade he receives for his body of work and his willingness to challenge himself. He might have bitten more than he can chew with Cotto but I respect Pac for stepping into the ring with the Puertorrican mauler. We will see come fight night.
                  Who said that he can beat fighters from 125 to 168 pounds??? He is not even a full WW and his handler are choosy enough on their line ups for pacman. They know that pac has no business in JMW, much more in LHW! And athe fact, Pac could not even considering in going down to 130 to settle their differences with JMM after he gained much weight for JWW, and I think JMM would devour him at 130lbs at this stage, but in 140lbs, JMM should not even think of this possibility because he will get annihilated by Pac.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by joelab75 View Post
                    how can a naturally small boxer like Pacquiao is overrated when he is fighting a real welterweight champion who has been fighting above 140 lbs for a long time. the more you destroy your opponent the more fans u attract. A WHILE BACK MANNY WAS NOT AS POPULAR. he is regarded as the most popular boxer IN THE WORLD. so it makes sense when those fans Manny has right now wasnt there a while back. even Mike Tyson is a fan of Manny Pacquio. did you get my point there? a while back he wasnt as popular. and dont even call Manny overrated. fighting bigger guys and going up in weights is far from being overrated. would you rather see him fighing Valero, Chris John? whoever Pacquiao fights you would call him overrated because you are a hater and not a boxing fan. Boxing fans admire what Manny has been done in his career. from 106 lbs going all the way up to 147 is extremely hard to do. in fact nobody has ever done it. nobody has ever done what he has done. a flyweight champ winning a jr welterweight title is unheard.
                    See what I mean???? You obviously didn't read my post correctly at all! How the hell can I be a boxing or Pac hater when I specifically said that I was a fan of his way back then? Are you serious?? This is what I mean about you people...it's like you have gone insane and you'll do anything to protect Pac even if the info is correct. First off....again, I don't even know why I am arguin with you about this. You state that no one has EVER gone from 106 to 147? Hmmm...before you make such a statement I would suggest you do a little bit more research. I mean I know you might not count somenone's amateur career but even Mayweather started fighting at 106lbs and how many titles did he win in how many different divisions??? I don't see you drooling over him do you? I bet that's not the fact. Anyway, don't call me a hater of Pac or hater of boxing because the two don't go together if you really think about it. But most likely you'll read my post and somehow misconstrue everything and find me guilty of what I am not: a hater.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
                      Who is kneeling for Manny??! Only those fans who hates Manny or Manny's fans said this out of disgust after finding significant numbers of fans joined to Manny's bandwagon. They even said Manny for President! but if you take this seriously, you're lost!
                      I am not lost my friend. The point that I was trying to make is that when you try to get into a constructive argument with these so called fans of Manny it becomes hostile the minute you say something that is not to their liking. I mean I can be the biggest fan of any boxer and I will defend them with facts and a practical argument while respecting the thoughts and opinions of others. But you can't (most of the times) have a fair and peaceful argument with these die-hard fans of Manny. I know humor and I know when they say "Manny for President" is all in fun. I am talking about those that even get nasty calling names and won't ever accept that he is human and can loose. That's all I am saying.

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