ive made my pick..cotto over pacman

[larry x]

no, the documented facts are Mayweather getting a gift decision over someone Pacquiao beats the **** out of every day and always would have.

floyd beat castillo 2 times=fact
anything you say on the matter=opinion

[them_apples]

and i dont know if the blood on floyds gloves were real...but that ass whooping he put on jmm definitly was real..thats all that matters

yea he beat JMM, wasn't overly impressive though. Just good. I was probably the only person on this board that was rooting for Marquez to actually win.

I don't see how beating an underdog moving up in weight by decision (not to mention an easy style for Floyd) is anything close to FOTY material.

[larry x]

the 2001 castillo wouldve ko's pacman with a body shot

[larry x]

yea he beat JMM, wasn't overly impressive though. Just good. I was probably the only person on this board that was rooting for Marquez to actually win.

so landing 60 percent of your shots and limiting your opponent to 12 percent..and winning every round isnt impressive...lmfao

[larry x]

who said fight of the year them apples?????you're just reaching now

[them_apples]

so landing 60 percent of your shots and limiting your opponent to 12 percent..and winning every round isnt impressive...lmfao

if you only look at it that way sure..what about NOT BEING ABLE to knock out a man 10 lbs lighter than him, who can't even perform at 147 (a weight that wasn't made).

About the body shot comment, don't make me laugh - let me guess Pacquiao suffered a body shot when he was 17 (actually a low blow) and that is why you think his body is weak? Last time I checked Mayweather was losing in the Am's

[larry x]

if you only look at it that way sure..what about NOT BEING ABLE to knock out a man 10 lbs lighter than him, who can't even perform at 147 (a weight that wasn't made).

About the body shot comment, don't make me laugh - let me guess Pacquiao suffered a body shot when he was 17 (actually a low blow) and that is why you think his body is weak? Last time I checked Mayweather was losing in the Am's

wasnt a low blow..he got ko'd twice..when was floyd ever ko'd in the am's or as a pro????never...floyds not a ko fighter..he like to punish fighters over 12 rounds..just like he did jmm..why couldnt pacman do the same??

[them_apples]

wasnt a low blow..he got ko'd twice..when was floyd ever ko'd in the am's or as a pro????never...floyds not a ko fighter..he like to punish fighters over 12 rounds..just like he did jmm..why couldnt pacman do the same??

It was a low blow, go watch it.

He was knocked out cold when he was 16 years old though.

Here is the difference, Mayweather learned in the am's..Pac had a short Am record and is learning in the pros.

Mayweather doesn't like to "punish people for 12 rounds" he looked pretty frustrated not being able to stop Marquez, it's more like Mayweather is defensive first and to finish someone he either has to catch them or open with both guns (something he never does because it would force him to lose his defense).

Why couldn't Pacquiao do the same? Because he fought him at 126 and 130 lbs thats why, and he made weight. It's also a styles based thing to, Marquez is a counter puncher, Pacquiao was a pure aggressor back then. Are you ******?

That's like me saying why couldn't Mayweather stop Hatton cold in 2..it's because of styles. Pacquiao just happens to have a hell of a lot more power than Mayweather, so Hattons face first brawling style was perfect for him.

[larry x]

anyway mr.apples im done..i dont want this to turn into a floyd thread..this is about cotto knocking out pacman on nov 14th

[them_apples]

anyway mr.apples im done..i dont want this to turn into a floyd thread..this is about cotto knocking out pacman on nov 14th

alright i gotta dip and go for a run anyhow..nice talking

a good argument is always..good