Did Mayweather steal the shoulder roll from James Toney?

[R.Winky Wright]

That's what he claims. You think it's true?

Floyd Mayweather Sn. might have taught him a thing or two.

[RagingTheBull]

No, boxing's been around for a long time, surely someone would have came up with the idea that rolling a shoulder could be good about the right shoulder, Ive seen Willie Pep and Locche do this.

Totally right. Locche and Pep were using this technique and also did Walcott. But they did not use it very regulary. In the 70's there is a match between Mayerather Sr and SRL where they both use the shoulder roll.

I think Toney established the s.r. as a technique, especially in the LH and Cruiserweight division but surely Mayweather he's the great master.

I pick Toney using it in the middle of ring and Floyd on the ropes. This technique is very useful to me... you're almost untochable to the body ( -> mexicans owned) but you have to be careful to the straight right hand. In fact the only decent punch that JMM landed on Floyd was a straight righthand when Floyd was on the ropes.

[MANGLER]

No fighter today nor from the 90s has a style they invented personally.

[TheGreatA]

Totally right. Locche and Pep were using this technique and also did Walcott. But they did not use it very regulary. In the 70's there is a match between Mayerather Sr and SRL where they both use the shoulder roll.

I think Toney established the s.r. as a technique, especially in the LH and Cruiserweight division but surely Mayweather he's the great master.

I pick Toney using it in the middle of ring and Floyd on the ropes. This technique is very useful to me... you're almost untochable to the body ( -> mexicans owned) but you have to be careful to the straight right hand. In fact the only decent punch that JMM landed on Floyd was a straight righthand when Floyd was on the ropes.

Locche didn't use it regularly? In some of the fights he would do nothing but lay on the ropes, slip punches and talk to ringside viewers, he was that lazy.

[The Gambler1981]

I am gald Floyd did not steal James Toney's work ethic, love of food, self control and desire to stay in fine physical shape .

To me those would all be bigger reasons to Floyd success then the shoulder roll.

[Point Giver Jr.]

Lol, thats like saying Mike Tyson stole the Bob N Weave from someone, or better yet, Mike Tyson stole the power punch from dempsey...

[ExecutiveOutlaw]

no, he stole it from margarito