Did Mayweather steal the shoulder roll from James Toney?

**Bhopreign** · 10-24-2009, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by ELPacman

That's what he claims. You think it's true?

As if Toney invented it? Use your head. No he didnt steal it, if he did then did Toney still it from Floyd's Sr.?

**Bretty Poy32** · 10-24-2009, 05:30 PM

james toney should sue him for stealing his art defense

**TheGreatA** · 10-24-2009, 05:31 PM

Floyd Sr. and Roger were using the shoulder roll defense years before Toney ever even thought about boxing. They obviously passed the technique to Floyd Jr.

**jrosales13** · 10-24-2009, 05:32 PM

No he didn't. And, Toney did not invented either.

**larry x** · 10-24-2009, 05:33 PM

hell no..he got it from his pops..but toney and the mayweathers are all from grand rapids michigan

**Heru** · 10-24-2009, 05:34 PM

No, he stole it from Mayweather Sr.

**Doctor_Tenma** · 10-24-2009, 05:39 PM

Didn't Archie Moore invent it?

**RightCross94** · 10-24-2009, 05:39 PM

The shoulder roll is an old, old defensive technique

I don't think James even claims to invent it, I remember him talking about watching Charles and Jersey joe

**TheGreatA** · 10-24-2009, 05:40 PM

Toney named Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore and Jersey Joe Walcott among his inspirations.

I have to wonder why he would claim to have "invented" the shoulder roll unless he was doing so jokingly.

Did Mayweather steal the shoulder roll from James Toney?