BRIAN KENNY : FLOYD MAYWEATHER doesnt want to fight PACQUIAO!

[El Jesus]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and when you're a high-profile fighter like Mayweather is, you are going to be subjected to a higher level of scrutiny than most fighters.

The prevailing opinion in the general media, not just Kenny, was that the Marquez fight was unnecessary and inconsequential when other fighters like Mosley were ready and available at 147 pounds.

The fight with Manny is bigger IMO than it was before the Marquez fight because I think boxing needed to be reminded about Mayweather. It's not a dig on him to say that boxing went on without Mayweather being active.

I still think and won't be convinced otherwise until Mayweather fights a credible 147 pounder that Mayweather needs a defining fight at 147. I don't like to say that a fighter "owes" his public something but in this case, Mayweather definitely owes the public that much.

....I dont think floyd mayweather owes the public anything. Why would he conceivably "owe" the fans a defining fight at 147? I think if mayweather NEVER had a defnining fight ever, i would agree, but at this point, in the SRL "megafight" era in boxing, once you put in enough work in other weight classes, you basically get to do whatever you want, sometimes even on your own terms. Mayweathers defining fights at 147 were supposed to be baldomir and judah, then it was supposed to be De LA Hoya at 154, its not like in any of those fights, he was viewed as having any extreme advantages his way.

Would i like to see him fight the best at 147? Yes, but hanging to the concept that a fighter owes "me" the public, anything is foolish IMO, this is a guy whos been taking a beating since he was a child to get where he is today, his credibility as a champion was sealed a long time ago. Just because the perception right now isnt so great, thats likely going to change in the next year or so. Since you are "mr credibility" now historically speaking SRL would actually be the mayweather of his time, except ray leonard was EVEN BETTER at selling "comebacks" and much better at skewing things into his favor. Or pulling stunts like retiring in center of the ring with Hagler watching. Or would you like to discuss how he didint fight at LHW but won the title? Yet what is his perception today? Things change over time.

Did Ray Leonard owe anybody a Hagler fight even though he pulled that ****? No. He did it, but he had solidified himself as a champion a long time ago. Weather he fought hagler or not wouldnt have mattered that much, he was great no matter what. fighting these extra mega fights at the end helps solify your legacy, but thats about it, it moves you up on the ATG ladder, but guys like mayweather are already there, weather top 50 or 100 or whatever, hes there.

People who take a beating for a living, weather they are a bum, a mid-level fighter, a gate keeper, or a self overated champ like mayweather dont owe you, or anybody else a ****ing thing.

[joartcc5]

What boxer DO you like?

It seems your only purpose in life is to dangle from the nuts of floyd.

Give me insight into the workings of your brain for a second.

I like boxers who even though they brag that they are the best... but they have the balls to prove it.

Gayweather claims he's better than Robinson yet ducks every opponent he sees as a threat.

Gayweather's own words reflect that.

Now gayweather stans, the very few idiots that they are... they really love cowards over dignified champs.

BTW... for ur education.

Gayweather is also a

1. Liar
2. Cheat
3. Racist

In addition to being him a fraud.

[djteo]

seems like nobody has watched the video for the thread.

questions asked
why floyd announced his fight with marquez the day of pac hatton fight and
why floyd didnt fight in his own weightclass against champion shane mosley

answer
he needed a tuneup fight.

why he won't fight the champion mosley now?
he doesnt want the risk of losing a fight with pac, if pac wins

[deuce_drop]

....I dont think floyd mayweather owes the public anything. Why would he conceivably "owe" the fans a defining fight at 147? I think if mayweather NEVER had a defnining fight ever, i would agree, but at this point, in the SRL "megafight" era in boxing, once you put in enough work in other weight classes, you basically get to do whatever you want, sometimes even on your own terms. Mayweathers defining fights at 147 were supposed to be baldomir and judah, then it was supposed to be De LA Hoya at 154, its not like in any of those fights, he was viewed as having any extreme advantages his way.

Would i like to see him fight the best at 147? Yes, but hanging to the concept that a fighter owes "me" the public, anything is foolish IMO, this is a guy whos been taking a beating since he was a child to get where he is today, his credibility as a champion was sealed a long time ago. Just because the perception right now isnt so great, thats likely going to change in the next year or so. Since you are "mr credibility" now historically speaking SRL would actually be the mayweather of his time, except ray leonard was EVEN BETTER at selling "comebacks" and much better at skewing things into his favor. Or pulling stunts like retiring in center of the ring with Hagler watching. Or would you like to discuss how he didint fight at LHW but won the title? Yet what is his perception today? Things change over time.

Did Ray Leonard owe anybody a Hagler fight even though he pulled that ****? No. He did it, but he had solidified himself as a champion a long time ago. Weather he fought hagler or not wouldnt have mattered that much, he was great no matter what. fighting these extra mega fights at the end helps solify your legacy, but thats about it, it moves you up on the ATG ladder, but guys like mayweather are already there, weather top 50 or 100 or whatever, hes there.

People who take a beating for a living, weather they are a bum, a mid-level fighter, a gate keeper, or a self overated champ like mayweather dont owe you, or anybody else a ****ing thing.

you got it all wrong dude, professionals in any sport whether they like it or not, or realize it or not, but they owe us big time, the fans, because without us, they don't have a paying job. we buy the tickets, the ppv's, the shirts, posters, etc. bet your sweet ass they owe and if they don't they get CALLED OUT ON THEIR ****!!! just like whats happening now. mega fights should be made, risks should be taken, and exciting fights need to come through for the fans, and more importantly the sport, to keep the fans it has and to gain others so we can keep this sport alive. if professionals took your POV of things, the sport would've died a long time ago, there would be no great history of the sport. so i can't agree with your slant on things about this.

mayweather needs to step up and fight meaningful fights, take a risk for once, go into a fight in total uncertainty; we all know he wont, we all know he's trying to write his version of history, but when you stack it up with facts, it's not that shiny. looks like a moissanite to me.........

i don't know about you, but i don't like being cheated out of my entertainment money, i don't like having someone **** on my plate and call it a "Sunday", and that is what floyd has done, and his latest opponent pick was ridiculous, which is really a ass backwards thing to say because marquez is a great in the sport, but a smaller great. as always a bigger good fighter beats a smaller great fighter and mayweather is a great fighter beyond good.

anyone who has/had a half a brain cell knew that marquez was too small for floyd and that there was no real purpose for the fight, other than line pockets. it's time to give the fans our money's worth, at the very least, so yeah, big guy, they do owe us, floyd owes us, and anyone that wants to be on my tv claiming to be the best in the world/ of all time, bet your sweet ass he owes, he owes to live up to his **** talking hype, he owes all of us, and he owes us more than he owes the IRS as far as i'm concerned. if he calls himself the best, i want him to clean and clear out all in his weight class and around him, not just from the smaller weight classes.

also, about BK, journalists are supposed to ask tough questions. i personally think that BK has gone soft on mayweather, just barely touches the sensitive questions and he sure as hell doesn't hammer them in. look at howard cosell, he had no problem, and he kept it professional, unlike douche bag jim gray. journalist aren't supposed to lay down when a interview is being conducted, unless they're just actors posing as journalists, like we have with our current mass media. i thnk BK should've made mayweather lose his cool, and his points that he brings up when floyd isnt around are very good, as well as some of his questions during their interviews, but i think BK needs to come harder.

i got no love for those who want the spot light, but act like they its nothing but a hassle with fans and media, when all we want is our moneys worth. no one likes being short changed.............

[Ekscape]

Brian Kenny also said a few years ago this exact same thing in regards to Ricky Hatton and we all know how that turned out... Lol, u damn well know Floyd is fiendin for pacquiao to beat cotto so he can whoop his ass next year dnt be idiotic

[#1Assassin]

lol at him saying floyd announced the JMM fight on the same day as pac-hatton cuz he was scared of pac. its quite the oposite. pac has fought floyds last two oponents, now floyd takes on a fighter who beat pac twice. if he wanted to avoid pac announcing it on the same day would be the most ******ed thing ever, cuz naturally once pac won a floyd fight would be the first thing on everyones mind. he was trying to hype a fight with pac, not avoid it.

as for not fighting mosley, i think its bcuz he wants to build up a a pac fight. and beating JMM does that without posing as big a risk as mosley. also i think floyd just doesnt want to give shane a chance, he called out shane a bunch of times and shane turned him down. now shanes had some losses and bad performances so he looks at floyd to get back to the top, but shane never gave floyd a chance. might aswell take on the pac-cotto winner instead and forget shane.

if floyd beats him he will be old and washed up anyways.

[zalez787]

It was on JMM to prove us wrong about it being a tune up. We gave him backhanded benefit of the doubt, but in the end it was on him. He failed, to put it bluntly. Not the first who has failed, who has faced mayweather.. And not the last.



If you have watched Floyd's entire catalog, like myself, you would know that Floyd has been in some battles, and emerged the victor. He has heart. He has fought with broken hands, and injured ribs. thats courage.

but, you haven't watched all his fights, have you? As I suspected.

No I havent watched all of his fights , I watch him against corrales , against castillo , aginst dela hoya , against hatton , against baldomir , against , judah , against corley , gatti , bruseles and augustus is that enough for you , He doesnt have a bad resume at all, so what , Pacquiao is doing what he was suposed to do a few years ago , and what floyd still wont do as of today wtf is ur argumehnt . And let me tell you something , I dont hate mayweather , I could careless , He doesnt attract me , His mouth and his ways dont attract me , Now , when people call him the p4p king its pretty ridiculous. I would love to see mayweather face , clottey , margarito , mosley and pacquiao . It wont happen , cuz he got no heart , the least you can expect when going in the ring is a war , a lot of gighters have been in wars , but he wont risk it anymore. He could have finished marquez , but he didnt. He doesnt engage , he survives. And he is pretty damn good at it. You take away his speed , he would have no accomplished anything , cuz he got nothing else to offer , defense by itself dont win fights. His style as of today , is hit and run , hit and run. And his career , will remain , run , run , run , run , how long has it been since he fought , wtf have we heard about him. nothing , he got options , he got plenty of options. Berto , clottey , quintana , collazo , mosley , pac and cotto after they fight , he could pick the winner or the loser , you know he wont tho, none of them , neither pac or cotto , no matter who loses. MAYWEATHER WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBER AS THE ONCE CROWNED P4P KING WHO DIDNT FIGHT THE TOP FIGHTERS IN HIS DIVISION. he is here for money and you support him, not me, all hi talks about is his ppv numbers , and how the biggest paycheck for everybody out there is mayweather vs anybody , but he still wont risk anything man. So **** riding him so much.


TOP TEN WW
1.MOSLEY
2.MAYWEATHER
3.COTTO
4.CLOTTEY
5.BERTO
6.COLLAZO
7.JUDAH
8.HLATSHWAYO
9.QUINTANA
10.AYDIN

WHO DID MAYWEATHER FACE TO BE NUMBER 2??? #7-JUDAH
WHO DID COTTO FACE TO BE NUMBER 3? #1-MOSLEY #4-CLOTTEY #7-JUDAH # 9-QUINTANA , not to mention , he face another fighter which was ranked at #1 a year ago , MARGARITO , which mayweather ran away from. Which will be still ranked in the top 5 if he didnt get banned , so that would have made it 5 for cotto and 1 for gayweather . So who that **** can argue with that. HIS UNDEFEATED RECORD , AINT **** , HE HAS NOT FOUGHT THE BEST PERIOD. AND I DONT THINK HE WILL. WHY??? CUZ HE IS A SCARED *****


one more thing , hatton has always and will always be the same fighter , he was not a shell , he is a one dimensional fighter which can only do one thing , and that is pressure the other fighter. Some people saw de la Hoya wining against Mayweather , and i think one judge gave it to him , yup he did , and that is pretty sad , De la hoya , at that age , taking you to 12 , winning in one judges mind , and in millions of fans eyes , but u are still considered the best. And pacquiao completely dominates him and embarrases him , any fighter at that age of de la hoyas career , considered a top fighter , was suposed to do that to him. Mayweather didnt , he just wanted the big paycheck. He is a sellout , and i dont like sellout , you obviously do.

[Shadow boxer 3]

brian kenny is unbias and he made some really good points, and this is coming from a floyd fan

[zalez787]

brian kenny is unbias and he made some really good points, and this is coming from a floyd fan

thank you!!!!!

[Syf]

I was out at a fight, and training. So.. yeah

I should recieve some kind of reward for jumping on this messy grenade of a post. For **** sakes...

No I havent watched all of his fights , I watch him against corrales , against castillo , aginst dela hoya , against hatton , against baldomir , against , judah , against corley , gatti , bruseles and augustus is that enough for you , .....

....He doesnt engage , he survives. And he is pretty damn good at it. You take away his speed , he would have no accomplished anything , cuz he got nothing else to offer , defense by itself dont win fights. His style as of today , is hit and run , hit and run. And his career , will remain , run , run , run , run , how long has it been since he fought , wtf have we heard about him.

Look man... You need to organize your thoughts better. You are constantly contradicting yourself and making long convoluted washed out points with run-on sentences..

No, thats NOT really enough fights to watch of his, but if you've watched the Gatti fight, the Corralles fight, and the Hatton fight, you know PBF is more than just defense. He has an underrated offensive arsenal. If you've watched the Corralles fight alone, a fight where he met a fellow undefeated fighter and humiliated him horribly, then you could not possibly say he is just defense.

Also, judges do factor defense into their criteria, didn't you know this?

He doesnt have a bad resume at all, so what , Pacquiao is doing what he was suposed to do a few years ago , and what floyd still wont do as of today wtf is ur argumehnt . And let me tell you something , I dont hate mayweather , I could careless , He doesnt attract me , His mouth and his ways dont attract me , Now , when people call him the p4p king its pretty ridiculous. I would love to see mayweather face , clottey , margarito , mosley and pacquiao .

Link to where I ever said floyd was P4P king. Link to where I ever put Floyd above Pacquiao on the pound 4 pound list until Floyd defeats Pac. I'll be waiting a while for that one...

You say now that you could care less about Floyd, yet write a babbling brook and pm me about it to make sure I see it. So its obviously important to you. On top of that, you said in an earlier post verbatim, in ALL CAPS, "I CAN'T STAND FLOYD", and now you expect me to believe you are indifferent all of a sudden. Just admit you hate Floyd. Its ok. Letting the venom out of your heart will hasten the healing process.

As for the rest, the bold seems to have made my point for me.

It wont happen , cuz he got no heart , the least you can expect when going in the ring is a war , a lot of gighters have been in wars , but he wont risk it anymore. He could have finished marquez , but he didnt.

Didn't I just get done saying he fought with broken hands and injured ribs. That's far more heart than I'll wager YOU have. So why throw stones in a glass house, my friend? **** is pointless. Floyd has been in over 140 fights throughout his amateur and professional career and you're telling me that he somehow got through all those fights with no heart. What a ****ing farce of a viewpoint.

No the MOST you can expect is a war, not the least. Fighters have to be equally talented or somewhere comparable, to require a "war". Countless fights go by without them, because sometimes (or in Floyd's case a lot of times) a fighter's opponent is just outclassed. Marquez is a case in point. He didn't finish off Marquez, true, but y'all cats would have cried from the rooftops either way. And as dominating a performance as Floyd put in is practically a K.O anyway.

he got plenty of options. Berto , clottey , quintana , collazo , mosley , pac and cotto after they fight , he could pick the winner or the loser , you know he wont tho, none of them , neither pac or cotto , no matter who loses. MAYWEATHER WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBER AS THE ONCE CROWNED P4P KING WHO DIDNT FIGHT THE TOP FIGHTERS IN HIS DIVISION. he is here for money and you support him, not me, all hi talks about is his ppv numbers , and how the biggest paycheck for everybody out there is mayweather vs anybody , but he still wont risk anything man. So **** riding him so much.

Man... He has fought some of the best, but by the very act of defeating the best, they have become the worst thanks to brilliant logical minds such as yourself. I call this the "Mayweather effect"

How the **** do you know who he is going to fight next? And what will you say when he invariably fights Pac next, if Pac beats Cotto? Then what will you say if Floyd beats Pac? Nothing? Your brain will explode? Or will you just shift your thinking in a new way to discredit Floyd? I'll go ahead and wager on the latter. What a joke.

TOP TEN WW
1.MOSLEY
2.MAYWEATHER
3.COTTO
4.CLOTTEY
5.BERTO
6.COLLAZO
7.JUDAH
8.HLATSHWAYO
9.QUINTANA
10.AYDIN

WHO DID MAYWEATHER FACE TO BE NUMBER 2??? #7-JUDAH
WHO DID COTTO FACE TO BE NUMBER 3? #1-MOSLEY #4-CLOTTEY #7-JUDAH # 9-QUINTANA , not to mention , he face another fighter which was ranked at #1 a year ago , MARGARITO , which mayweather ran away from. Which will be still ranked in the top 5 if he didnt get banned , so that would have made it 5 for cotto and 1 for gayweather . So who that **** can argue with that. HIS UNDEFEATED RECORD , AINT **** , HE HAS NOT FOUGHT THE BEST PERIOD. AND I DONT THINK HE WILL. WHY??? CUZ HE IS A SCARED *****

You are looking at the ww situation now, not as it was even a few years ago. Before SSM beat Margarito he was all but forgotten. People had Margarito picked to destroy Mosley.

Again, why should Floyd, when he's coming out of retirement and hasn't fought in two years, pick fights with top ww's, of which his bargaining power would be extremely low, because he been away from the scene for so long? He had to re-up his name and prove to himself and others that he still had "it". JMM was the perfect vehicle for doing that.

And I'll reiterate. I would bet the ****ing house that he is more courageous than little convoluted confused hypocrites like you.

one more thing , hatton has always and will always be the same fighter , he was not a shell , he is a one dimensional fighter which can only do one thing , and that is pressure the other fighter. Some people saw de la Hoya wining against Mayweather , and i think one judge gave it to him , yup he did , and that is pretty sad , De la hoya , at that age , taking you to 12 , winning in one judges mind , and in millions of fans eyes , but u are still considered the best. And pacquiao completely dominates him and embarrases him , any fighter at that age of de la hoyas career , considered a top fighter , was suposed to do that to him. Mayweather didnt , he just wanted the big paycheck. He is a sellout , and i dont like sellout , you obviously do.

If we really are going to go down that road, DLH was a far less dangerous version of himself than the one that fought PBF, and Hatton was mentally destroyed.

I mean, he canned his old trainer and long time friend and hired Floyd's FATHER, and after getting ktfo by Pacquiao all Hatton can talk about is wanting a rematch with Floyd.

Floyd mentally sonned Hatton. Hatton is haunted by Floyd in his every 1 and 2.

I do not support cowards, which is probably why I have such trouble with faceless critics that couldn't carry Floyd's jockstrap, let alone possibly be in any position to criticize even ONE of his wins.

Every prizefighter is in it for the prize. The ones that say different are lying to you.