why is floyd so scared?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #31
    Originally posted by Syf
    Yes, I've heard this argument before...I'm not calling you a hater, but maybe you've allowed yourself to be influenced by their rhetoric..Who knows.

    You have to take into consideration the "Mayweather effect" that is a result of the backlash of losing to Mayweather. Some people have Mayweather so low in their esteem, that, anyone he beats joins him in that holding tank of low esteem.

    You might have a champion, undefeated such as Corralles or Hatton... But once they lose to Mayweather, they all of a sudden lose some of their status, if not all, with your average Mayweather detractor. Not to even mention the several fighters he beat that only had 1 or two losses, I mean they really get trashed. Whereas, before the fight they are built up as "threats". This process is rinsed and repeated over and over.

    Let me pose you a hypothetical to see what I mean. What if, instead of Floyd fighting Hatton, he fought Cotto instead? And beat Cotto in a convincing fashion? Well, the "Mayweather effect" would have already diminished the status of Cotto.. And Hatton would be saying Floyd ducked him. And people would be backing his claims. Saying Cotto was this or that (insert downplaying excuse here), and Hatton was the "real threat" all along, provided Hatton hadn't been drubbed by someone else yet, that is..

    THe same works for SSM, or anyone, really. Just give one pass of the "Mayweather effect" and they are instantly delegitimized in the eyes of many. Meanwhile, the ones left over are free to say THEY are the threats, and that Floyd has been ducking THEM.

    And then people back those claims up... ect , ect..

    The major problem is people want to see a competitive fight. They want to see Floyd challenged..otherwise they feel like they were somehow robbed as fight fans. But what if he's just that damned good? What if no one in the WW scene could even truly challenge him, with the possible exception of Pwill? But people refuse to believe this generally, and hence their next logical step is to call Floyd a coward like that shining example of humanity above me..

    But don't worry... he will fight someone good next. People are just gnashing their teeth too much and need to chill.
    A Cotto win may have been discredited when they talked about it first because Cotto was not Viewed as a world class fighter until after the Mosley fight. Not SSM though, he was already established before Floyd and that fight fell through for whatever reason then. That was then though and this is now, those are the fights ppl want to see. Floyd is a business man and in the business of selling fights, well I know the fights I will buy off of him and it would be smart of him to give the fans what they want.
    You may be right and Floyd may go through all of the opponents I and many others want him to fight and do it completely untested. I know some will mention how old SSM is or Cotto was ruined by Marg, but not me and other neutral fans. He gets full credit for those wins.....but they have to happen before I can give him credit.

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    • BUBOY FERNANDEZ
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      #32
      I agree with TS.

      FLOYD is sissy.

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      • alexpz
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        #33
        Originally posted by The Weebler II
        nah, the '0' is what's bringing the cash in because it sure as hell isn't his fighting style.

        Without his '0' Mayweather wouldn't get any big money fights, people watch because they want to see him beaten not because they like watching him fight.
        I totally agree that people watch his fight not because they are cheering for him but because they want to see him lose.

        And because of that he will protect his 0 no matter what happen. He'd rather fight small boxer even though he knows that fighting them will have no credibility at all as long as he keeps his 0 loses. With his 0 he can demand bigger share and he can pick whom he will fight and he knows that people will still be willing to pay to watch his fight. Not because they love Floyd but because they just hate him.

        Thats the negative side of having a 0. You will be too cautious to fight boxer that is capable of taking your 0.

        As long as Floyd still keeps his 0 loses, then we won't be seeing him fight top WW boxers.

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        • Luis12
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          #34
          Originally posted by DAN916
          He wants to make sure he's retires as the champ on paper... his resume would seem impressive to someone who knew nothing about boxing.
          agreed

          Originally posted by daggum
          he had to grow up as a young boy seeing his dad get beatdown by sugar ray leonard and seeing his uncle roger dominated by whitaker and julio cesar chavez. no wonder he's scared of good fighters cause he keeps thinking about those traumatic events and crying.
          lol but it's true.

          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          He did his best work early in his career but his most recent fights were indeed lacking the the legitimate threat department so criticism is warranted. Stop the perpetual victim hood of poor Floyd who according to his zealous admirers can't get a break. If he fought everyone who everyone wants him to fight, all of whom I think he would beat anyway, he would be one of the most popular champions in the world. I am a boxing fan not a hater or a nutthugger and just find it frustrating that he fails to tap into his immense talent and live up to his potential by fighting the best fighters he could possibly fight.
          great post.

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          • Two Clips
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            #35
            Originally posted by joartcc5
            If ur contending Baldomir is a better name on his resume than a Margarito, Cotto, Williams, or Mosley...

            Then u really are an idiot.

            ANd let's not even start on Spafadora, Kostya, Casmayor, Freitas.

            All of whom gayweather ducked.
            Not saying that, but what I am saying is he's back and once he adds some or all of those names on your list there will be another line of clowns that everyone thinks he has to fight.

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            • civicvx
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              #36
              Originally posted by >Lord13<
              of fighting real opposition?
              i think it's in his genes. he can't help but duck any real threat.
              he is ruining boxing, and so are his fans.

              floyd "the running" gayweather would never join a tournament like the super-six one. boxing needs more of that, not more of floyd.
              You got it all wrong. Floyd is not a duck, Floyd is a chicken. Big difference between the two. You ever try to catch a wild chicken before, that's Floyd.

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              • mathed
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                #37
                I think it stems from his childhood and family life. He is from a ***********al family- a drug dealer for a father and a violent family. There was always bickering between his father and uncles and all the pressure was put on Floyd to be the star and lifeblood of his family. He had the burden of bringing them out of the ****** on his skills.

                Floyd probably has hidden most of his personal troubles from the media and the only thing that truly symbolizes his success is his record. Once he loses the 0, the mystique of Floyd Mayweather Jr is gone. I believe in his mind, he feels that if he loses, he will be a failure and he will have let his family down.

                On the outside it would appear that the 0 represents his marketability but I feel it goes much deeper than that. He seems to try to be a mature adult but he feels threatened when questioned about his career and undoubtedly resorts to shouting and diminishing others. I believe it is akin to what Michael Jackson went through: ***********al family life, all the pressure to succeed on him, and the result is he loses his childhood.
                It appears that Floyd is indeed a boy trapped in a man's body (not trying to diss him but explain why he may act the way that he does)

                Floyd distances himself from situations regarding him by letting others decide what is best for him and more importantly as evidence, often, if not always, refers to hiimself in the third person. This is a good indication of emotional instability as it is a safety tactic that people use to seperate themselves from tramatic experiences they wish not to think about. He has created a false persona that represents "Floyd Money Mayweather" but inside he may feel completely different. When questioned, he always responds with anger and violence, another indication of his inner emotional discontent.

                The one uncle, Jeff, has distanced himself from the core of the Mayweather family and I feel that he recognizes the broken nature that is present there in the household. Listen to the way Roger and Sr. talk, always dismissing the accomplishments of others and cursing in every sentence. The blame is always placed on other people for not fighting them: not a big draw, steriod user, no name, too many losses, etc.

                Once again, not really trting to diss Floyd (although I can understand if people view it that way) but just my personal observations through the years.

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