Miguel Cotto Unloads on Roach, Vargas, Explains Gato

[pugay_kamay]

Have you actually seen the first Mosley-Vargas fight? Mosley was getting "owned" by a shot,weight drained Vargas.





Typical newb,he beat Quartey clear enough,alot more than De La Hoya ever did.Winky Wright's fight with Vargas was close enough,but it wasn't a robbery by any means,a young Vargas was alot more competitive against Wright than Mosley was when he got treated like a red headed step child twice by Winky and De La Hoya blatantly ducked Winky Wright.


Vargas was shot by the time he fought Mayorga,not just past his prime but SHOT! Vargas was past his prime when De La Hoya beat him,and that's De La Hoya's greatest win.


Trinidad and De La Hoya were made to work for their wins over Vargas,they didn't blow him out and anybody who claims they did haven't even watched those fights.

Yeah it's not a robbery but a DAY LIGHT ROBBERY!

[El Jesus]

What cotto said about El Gato is exactly what i suspected, he was probably in there not doing what he was asked in terms of emulating a situation. He probably saw this as an oppurtunity to upstage cotto and by alot of his comments i figured that was it. Cotto was likely fighting a certain way to prepare for a particular fight situation and El Gato likely ****ed around. This happens more often than you think. His comments about fighters wanting to grow in sparring is dead on, Juan Lazcano particularly comes to mind.

[El Jesus]

As far as vargas vs cotto, this depends on which vargas were talking about. Alot of that depends on if were talking vargas after winky or vargas after trinidad. Reality is that Vargas would give cotto a very good fight, the thing is nobody really went to Vargas body like cotto would try to do. I honestly dont know who wins that fight. Vargas was a very highly touted up and comer coming out of the olympics and had alot of promise. He was rushed because Main Events thought he would go to jail before he would ever become big, so they threw him in with trinidad when they really had no buisness doing so.

Cottos best asset is basically timing and body punching, but Vargas was also excellent at timing someone as well, so i honestly dont know who would win. Vargas didint adjust very well midfight which cotto interestingly enough does very well. So who knows.

Most people in this thread never really saw vargas before the trinidad fight and it shows. Some of you have never seen him in his prime at all and it shows.

[El Jesus]

Roach talking becoming effective.. they want to roar the lion to come up in their liking! I don't believe he didn't care of Roach big mouth, because there were remarkable amount of hates in his tones the way he'd commented! I hope he will be cool in the ring to give more exciting fight on Nov.14!

What he said had nothing to do with hate, he answered in a realistic tone in regards to whats being said, he wasnt even disrespectful. I think youd like to believe that roach is "getting in his head" because it supports the notion your fighter will win. Cotto is not going to just go all crazy and change his gameplan, Cotto and Rocky Juarez have basically the same mentality.

[jetgeomcx]

What cotto said about El Gato is exactly what i suspected, he was probably in there not doing what he was asked in terms of emulating a situation. He probably saw this as an oppurtunity to upstage cotto and by alot of his comments i figured that was it. Cotto was likely fighting a certain way to prepare for a particular fight situation and El Gato likely ****ed around. This happens more often than you think. His comments about fighters wanting to grow in sparring is dead on, Juan Lazcano particularly comes to mind.

read the other side of the coin...from el gato

read on, people.....

GATO SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT COTTO AND HIS DISMISSAL FROM CAMP

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content6008.html

manny will start aggressive, strong and FAST.
cotto will be perflexed he will not know what hit him!!

[El Jesus]

read the other side of the coin...from el gato

I listened to his interview and read everything already. Its why i said what i said. I was waiting for cotto to say what i already suspected. We have been hearing gatos "side of the coin" all ****ing week if you havent noticed.

[BennyST]

Yeah Because losing all your big fights by KO and getting outbox by RIOcardo ****ing Mayorga does the job right?



Fernando started at 154 and fought a high as 166. Cotto started at 140 and is a natural WW.

I they where the same size, it would be a 50/50 fight!!!!!

Well, he beat Wright, and Quartey and Campas who were his biggest fights along with Trinidad, Oscar and Mosley. Amazing wins. That version of Vargas ie. before Trinidad would beat Cotto.

The again, he was a 154 pound fighter so it's not unusual that he would.

[El Jesus]

Well, he beat Wright, and Quartey and Campas who were his biggest fights along with Trinidad, Oscar and Mosley. Amazing wins. That version of Vargas ie. before Trinidad would beat Cotto.

The again, he was a 154 pound fighter so it's not unusual that he would.

Most people in this thread never really saw vargas before the trinidad fight and it shows. Some of you have never seen him in his prime at all and it shows.

Most of these people here have no idea the kind of hype Vargas got when he turned pro, and how he was one of the biggest prospects from the 96 team along with Mayweather.

[BennyST]

Yeah it's not a robbery but a DAY LIGHT ROBBERY!

The Wright fight a robbery?

It was close and could have gone either way depending on what you liked but it wasn't, in any way, a robbery.

[El Jesus]

The Wright fight a robbery?

It was close and could have gone either way depending on what you liked but it wasn't, in any way, a robbery.

Basically what you are seeing here is exactly what thread stealer talked about the other day. How most people right now are on here not so much because they are fans of boxing, but mostly to sukk another fighters ****. All of the sudden fernando vargas is relevant because he gave his opinion on pac/cotto, and what you are going to see is an echo chamber of talking points from the past that have been discussed here previously. Like the Vargas/Wright fight, in which winky didint push hard enough in the championship rounds and made it closer than it should have been. Ill be damned if Vargas, whos career was basically ruined by trinidad, would be Cotto to do ANYTHING successful.

This place, as fight time gets closer, becomes similar to an enviorment similar to politics, where talking points are handed out and the partisan threads get made, and individuals, writers, pundits who support their side are suddenly praised, and those differing in opinion are villified. When this fight is over, one side will shut up for awhile, while the other celebrates and well rinse and repeat. What makes it noticable is the fact that every ****ing thread is in relation to either pac/cotto/mayweather.