Roger Mayweather Working the Mitts

[Pullcounter]

if you watch the vids, they are good teaching tools. he says that he doesn't have a strategy..ok..but by the teaching on these old vids, his strategy is obvious...HIT AND DON'T GET HIT.

that's not strategy. that's just basic boxing.

roger doesn't teach strategy, he teaches tactics.

naw your wrong, he just doesn't talk strategy. In DLH book he talks about Roger and Floyd Sr. and gives them a ton of credit for their boxing knowledge.

knowledge? yes. strategy? nope.

They know the game, believe me it's just they are very secretive about it.

nah, they know how to fight, and they know pad work and tactics... what they are missing is strategy.

Proof is in the pudding and when Floyd fought JMM, I KNEW he wasn't going to rush in. That's what made JMM so effective against Pac because he was able to play counter puncher and conserve energy and counter Pac with his boxing skill.

I thought he won the second fight, I actually thought he won both but that's another argument.

what does this have to do with roger?

It's just a good technique to build speed, faster temp and defense. I like it but like I said, ultimately you need to spar and spar a lot to be a good fighter.

you also need padwork and someone to teach you technique.

also, you need a strategy to beat your opponents.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

that's not strategy. that's just basic boxing.

roger doesn't teach strategy, he teaches tactics.


knowledge? yes. strategy? nope.


nah, they know how to fight, and they know pad work and tactics... what they are missing is strategy.


what does this have to do with roger?


you also need padwork and someone to teach you technique.

also, you need a strategy to beat your opponents.

To have knowledge means you can emplore strategy. I mean come on man, I know they act dumb but they aren't ****** when it comes to boxing. All you have to do is listen to Roger or Floyd talk about boxing and you will see they know a lot about fighters and how to counter them. That's strategy...

I used the Jmm vs Manny fight because everyone was wondering how Floyd was going to approach the JMM fight. A lot of people said Floyd might come in and rush JMM, use his size and strength.

Instead, he countered a counter puncher because it was the best STRATEGY and paid off. He learned from the Manny fight and understood that even though he had the advantage in almost every category, he would still counter punch with JMM and it paid off. Floyd not losing a round..

Believe me, they understand strategy and understand boxing. I have heard him talk many times about certain fighters and how to counter what they do, even historic fighters. They know strategy, they just don't talk about it.

They don't even allow cameras in the sparring sessions.....they are just funny like that.

[Pullcounter]

To have knowledge means you can emplore strategy. I mean come on man, I know they act dumb but they aren't ****** when it comes to boxing. All you have to do is listen to Roger or Floyd talk about boxing and you will see they know a lot about fighters and how to counter them. That's strategy...

countering isn't a strategy, its a tactic.

I used the Jmm vs Manny fight because everyone was wondering how Floyd was going to approach the JMM fight. A lot of people said Floyd might come in and rush JMM, use his size and strength.

Instead, he countered a counter puncher because it was the best STRATEGY and paid off.

nah... they had no strategy. floyd went in there and noticed how much bigger and faster he was and he was content to beat jmm on points. floyd counterpunched because that's what he does.

He learned from the Manny fight and understood that even though he had the advantage in almost every category, he would still counter punch with JMM and it paid off. Floyd not losing a round..

I don't think roger watch much jmm tape at all. floyd probably didn't even watch one tape of jmm to study his style and break it down.

Believe me, they understand strategy and understand boxing. I have heard him talk many times about certain fighters and how to counter what they do, even historic fighters. They know strategy, they just don't talk about it.

they don't know strategy, they just know tactics and how to get in great shape. they don't talk about it because they don't have it.

They don't even allow cameras in the sparring sessions.....they are just funny like that.

I think that's just a tradition that they are used to doing. it has nothing to do with strategy.

[da chosen 1]

he teaches really good basics. he knows his **** id like him to train me

[lee majors]

Dope post, Coach Webb. It gave me a better understanding as to what Roger and Floyd are trying to accomplish during their pad routine. Come to think of it, it is their pad routine. Also, it's cool to see Roger give instructions upon the execution of the Pull-counter maneuver in video 5 and to have witnessed it used against JMM, recently. Hell, I see Mayweather's pull counter gif more so than any other gif from that fight.

[paulsinghnl]

i was just checking this stuff out.. the thought that went into making that pad work.. pretty genius. it's designed with sparring to make the fighter self sufficient, to cope with any type of fighter, any situation. i'm gonna check it all out.

[AddiX]

You guys can talk bad about the Mayweathers all you want, but they know boxing as well as anyone in the world. Roger is a damn good trainer, and was tough as nails fighter.

[johnm is...]

How in the hell is Coach banned?

[V.WEBB]

How in the hell is Coach banned?

They banned by old account for "spamming" because I kept posting the same thing in December 09 about the Manny-Floyd drug testing thing. I've petitioned for them to unban my original account, no luck though.

[bojangles1987]

I cannot stand Roger Mayweather, or Floyd Sr., but they don't get enough credit for their role in making Floyd Jr. what he is.