Daniel Dubois is a Legitimate Elite Heavyweight

[ELPacman]

This guy really has all the attributes, he's tough, solid chin, great power and stamina. His only question mark is his heart.

Aside from his losses to Usyk, he has shown himself to be possibly the 2nd best heavyweight in the world right now, his resume speaks for itself as well

Hergovic
Baby Miller
Anthony Joshua
Wardley

His loss to Joyce was a fluke, he was winning that fight, similar to Vitali Klitschko vs Chris Byrd.

He can have a very bright future at the young age of 28. I'd rematch Joyce, then go through a few of the B level competition like Parker, Okolie, Gassiev, before stepping up to Fury or Kabayel.

Is he stepping up to face Fury? Fury also loss to Usyk twice. Fury is now facing AJ who DDD KO'd. I feel like Usyk really separated himself from the pack with his wins and just about anyone under Usyk has a chance of beating one another but not Usyk himself.

Granted, Usyk at this age might be ripe for the taking. I just hope it's not a kickboxer that does, lol.

[RockyKO]

Tyson Fury is the second best until someone not named Usyk beats him. I feel pretty confident Dubois would have a lot of difficult with Fury's awkward style, measuring jab, and his huge uppercuts. Maybe Dubois can get inside and land a hard hook but Fury has never been KO. If Wilder or Usyk couldn't knock him out why would Dubois?

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Tyson Fury is the second best until someone not named Usyk beats him. I feel pretty confident Dubois would have a lot of difficult with Fury's awkward style, measuring jab, and his huge uppercuts. Maybe Dubois can get inside and land a hard hook but Fury has never been KO. If Wilder or Usyk couldn't knock him out why would Dubois?

why? dubois might have a better resume than fury. he definitely has a much better recent resume over the last 3 years or so. fury hasnt beaten a top 10 opponent in more than 4 years while dubois has 3 and jarrell milller easily could be top 10 but he got robbed against ruiz jr. head to head fury might win yes but rankings should be about accomplishments not fantasy and furys wilder wins aged like milk

[RockyKO]

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why? dubois might have a better resume than fury. he definitely has a much better recent resume over the last 3 years or so. fury hasnt beaten a top 10 opponent in more than 4 years while dubois has 3 and jarrell milller easily could be top 10 but he got robbed against ruiz jr. head to head fury might win yes but rankings should be about accomplishments not fantasy and furys wilder wins aged like mil

How can you say that Dubois has better accomplishments than Fury? Fury is a 2 time World Champion and so is Dubois. Fury is 5-2-1 in Championship fights and Dubois is 2-2. As far as his opponents Fury beat Klitschko. Who has Dubois beat that even comes close to that? AJ? He beat a one hit wonder in Wardley and hasn't even defended his title once. I like Miller but that fight with Ruiz was a draw in my eyes. I can never trust the fans when they say someone won or lost a fight. I remember when everyone was screaming that Bivol won the first fight with Beterbiev. Then I watch it and the judges clearly called it right so. I think Miller would have a lot of problems with Pryce Taylor if you want me to be honest.

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How can you say that Dubois has better accomplishments than Fury? Fury is a 2 time World Champion and so is Dubois. Fury is 5-2-1 in Championship fights and Dubois is 2-2. As far as his opponents Fury beat Klitschko. Who has Dubois beat that even comes close to that? AJ? He beat a one hit wonder in Wardley and hasn't even defended his title once. I like Miller but that fight with Ruiz was a draw in my eyes. I can never trust the fans when they say someone won or lost a fight. I remember when everyone was screaming that Bivol won the first fight with Beterbiev. Then I watch it and the judges clearly called it right so. I think Miller would have a lot of problems with Pryce Taylor if you want me to be honest.

i said resume not accomplishments. i dont care about belts or any nonsense like that. its about beating good fighters otherwise you could say wilder is better than dubios or something hilarious cause wilder has a bunch of easy title defenses and dubois doesnt.

i dont have a problem if anyone thinks fury has a better overall resume, maybe he does but its at least very close and its close because fury hasnt put any quality work in for 4 years now. he definitely does not have a good recent resume at all. he has no notable wins since whyte which was 4 years ago. in that span dubios beat joshua, wardley, hrgovic and miller. 3 top 5 guys. fury beat ngannou, chisora and makhmadov. no top 10 guys. the wlad win might be better than any dubois win yes but that was 11 years ago. literally the same year pac and floyd fought but claiming they are top guys because of that fight would be downright silly.

we know fury is still a good fighter but he clearly lost both usyk fights about 9-3 or so. he did better than dubios but they just have different styles so its not a real surprise. in the second fight fury really didnt even try to win and thought he could get a decision putzing around. dubois' style led to him being ko'd but at least he was in there trying to land somethnig and change the fight, fury accepted his defeat because he didnt watn to be ko'd or hurt like the first fight so he didnt go for it. the ring is very generous having fury 4th but im guessing thats because of the fake controversy of fury claiming he won both usyk fights because if you go 4 years without a meaningful win you probably shouldnt be in the top 5 and dubois is clearly the 2nd most accomplished heavy of the last 3 years.

[Spray_resistant]

With this win and his previous wins before losing to Usyk again he would have to be considered no. 2 at HW.

[NihonJim]

The only real separator between Fury and Dubois resumes is 39 year old Klitschko.

And to be honest I expect a rampaging Dubois stops a panicked Klitschko in similar fashion to how he stopped AJ.

In actual fact who did Klitschko beat even in his prime who was decisively better than Dubois?

People always want to trash this era but they are very quick to forget.

[Sparked_26]

The only real separator between Fury and Dubois resumes is 39 year old Klitschko.

And to be honest I expect a rampaging Dubois stops a panicked Klitschko in similar fashion to how he stopped AJ.

In actual fact who did Klitschko beat even in his prime who was decisively better than Dubois?

People always want to trash this era but they are very quick to forget.

Surely nobody intimates Wlad's reign was superior?

Who was better than Dubois is a question for the real heavyweight nerds I reckon - not me but I'd like to hear from others.

If forced I think a prime Povetkin over Dubois i'd be tempted to pick or David Haye if he landed early. Struggling outside of that.

A lot of those people Wlad beat, unless you were a real die hard fan of heavies I dunno how you could form a strong opinion on them. Pulev, Thompson and Peter off the top of my head I had at least seen fight more than once other than Wlad. Mormeck I will have seen the Haye fight.

No idea if Chagaev, Ibragimov, or Brewster et al. were any good.

Certainly not gonna review their fights now, lol.

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The only real separator between Fury and Dubois resumes is 39 year old Klitschko.

And to be honest I expect a rampaging Dubois stops a panicked Klitschko in similar fashion to how he stopped AJ.

In actual fact who did Klitschko beat even in his prime who was decisively better than Dubois?

People always want to trash this era but they are very quick to forget.

u are forgetting u mean

there are more names on fury resume than wlad and wilder, quite a bit better than dublois resume