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  • Theshotyoudontsee
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    #1

    Why do people hate and like certain fighters?

    I find it fascinating reading the opinions. Just wondering how some of these opinions are formed.

    I personally like action fighters who are defensively responsible but who go into the ring looking to hurt guys and KO their opponents. I know this is seen as what "casual fans" are looking for in a fight. In this case I think the casuals are mostly right.

    I can appreciate Floyd, Pernell Whitaker and a few others, just because they are so good at being defensive. But the idea that great boxing is "hit and don't get hit" holds true if the guy not getting hit is also able to mount an effective offense and able to hurt their opponent. No offense equals a boring fighter.

    Bivol for instance basically just back pedals entire fights and stinks it up. His offense is weak and he doesn't carry much power. But some people here act like he is some all time great. I don't hate Bivol but I wouldn't buy a ppv for him alone.

    I see people really disliking Benavidez. The guy at this point is almost single handedly making boxing exciting. He is fun to watch, beating guys up and not afraid to mix it up. I'd buy a ppv just for him. He is great to watch.

    Is this all based on where people are from, like ethnic favoritism? I love any fighter who is a dog in the ring. I give more respect to fighters who come to do damage and ko guys.

    How do you all form your opinions?
    Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 05-06-2026, 02:14 PM.
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    Thanks for pointing out reasons I appreciated watching Pacquiao in my younger years and got me into the sport. You need fighters that bring excitement because that does bring casuals who can then dive deeper into the sport, learn more about it and eventually appreciate more defensive minded guys. While they're still not my cup of tea unless they're trying to go for the KO at some point, I can appreciate the art. It just doesn't do much for me entertainment wise.

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    • hugh grant
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      #3
      I tend to not like fighters who don't give me the fights I want, when I want them

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      • SouthpawRight
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        #4
        1. Gender - I only watch male boxing. Not into a nerfed product
        2. Substance - Quality how good is he. Everyone prefers the best. Free up a lot of time by watching only the p4p guys
        3. Style - Does the way he fights result in him landing clean punches. I like fighters who do the science. They believe in jab defense footwork, these make boxing unique from other fighting systems. Not a fan of SUPER spoilers [Sergio Mora] nor SLOPPY sluggers [Deontay] and swarmer [Shawn Porter]. Clean punches are poetic
        4. Personality - do his words gain mindshare to make you give a uck about seeing him fight. Many great fighters but few who can make you want to watch all of their fights
        5. Nationality/Ethnicity - I prefer seeing AmeriBlacks and Easterners. These cultures produce my favorite styles
        Last edited by SouthpawRight; 05-06-2026, 02:36 PM.

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        • SouthpawRight
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          #5
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight
          1. Gender - I only watch male boxing. Not into a nerfed product
          2. Substance - Quality how good is he. Everyone prefers the best. Free up a lot of time by watching only the p4p guys
          3. Style - Does the way he fights result in him landing clean punches. I like fighters who do the science. They believe in jab defense footwork, these make boxing unique from other fighting systems. Not a fan of SUPER spoilers [Sergio Mora] nor SLOPPY sluggers [Deontay] and swarmer [Shawn Porter]. Clean punches are poetic
          4. Personality - do his words gain mindshare to make you give a uck about seeing him fight. Many great fighters but few who can make you want to watch all of their fights
          5. Nationality/Ethnicity - I prefer seeing AmeriBlacks and Easterners. These cultures produce my favorite styles
          Fat Dave checks 4 of the 5 on my criteria

          While I usually don’t care for the flat footed Mexican pressure style

          Given his mold Fat Dave punches pretty accurately, has a good jab, and defends well

          Fat Dave fights I’ve paid to watch include Gvozdyk Cuban Dave Buff Guy Yarde Fat Gilbert

          Saul Santos is another Mexican with fights I’ve paid for. He’s a deliberate puncher who had good upper body slickness

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          • SouthpawRight
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            #6
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            Fat Dave checks 4 of the 5 on my criteria

            While I usually don’t care for the flat footed Mexican pressure style

            Given his mold Fat Dave punches pretty accurately, has a good jab, and defends well

            Fat Dave fights I’ve paid to watch include Gvozdyk Cuban Dave Buff Guy Yarde Fat Gilbert

            Saul Santos is another Mexican with fights I’ve paid for. He’s a deliberate puncher who had good upper body slickness
            Personal stylistic preference hierarchy
            1. Pure Boxes Silk Smooth, Shakur Top Soviet Bivol
            2. Boxer-punch Naruto Ninja Naoya, Ronin Junto, BIBLICAL Moses
            3. Swarming Buff Guy Artur Fat Dave
            4. Sluggers
            5. Brawlers

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            • SouthpawRight
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              #7
              It’s petty but a r etarded fanbase can turn would be fans away from a fighter

              Fanbases with zero historical context declaring their guy the goat when his record is far from it

              the most recent fanbase being Oleksandr’s 3rd world ukrainies

              TBud briefly with those afrocentric tribalists

              manny’s paqturds again with the 3rd world education thinking

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              • hardleft
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                Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee

                Bivol for instance basically just back pedals entire fights and stinks it up. His offense is weak and he doesn't carry much power. But some people here act like he is some all time great. I don't hate Bivol but I wouldn't buy a ppv for him alone.

                thats a bit odd

                from what ive read from his opponents bivols power is enough to keep opponents honest as in they cant just rush in regardless and ignore it, canelo even said his power was good if i remember

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                • SouthpawRight
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by hardleft

                  thats a bit odd

                  from what ive read from his opponents bivols power is enough to keep opponents honest as in they cant just rush in regardless and ignore it, canelo even said his power was good if i remember
                  If anything guys like Floyd and Top Soviet Bivol have power

                  they don't commit to shots but still get the opponent's respect

                  Top Soviet's slappy strikes kept Buff Guy Artur honest

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                  • Theshotyoudontsee
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                    Fat Dave checks 4 of the 5 on my criteria

                    While I usually don’t care for the flat footed Mexican pressure style

                    Given his mold Fat Dave punches pretty accurately, has a good jab, and defends well

                    Fat Dave fights I’ve paid to watch include Gvozdyk Cuban Dave Buff Guy Yarde Fat Gilbert

                    Saul Santos is another Mexican with fights I’ve paid for. He’s a deliberate puncher who had good upper body slickness
                    Are you Russian? You crack me up with Fat Guy Buff Guy stuff. And you seem to love Bivol.

                    I admittedly have a bias towards Biev. I watched him growing up with my dad (who recently passed) and we never missed a fight of his.

                    I think Bivol is a smart fighter but he is way too hesitant to mix it up for my taste. Apparently in sparring he has power, he just doesn't often sit down on his punches in real fights. It frustrates me to watch him because I feel that he could be a fun guy to watch.

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