Comments Thread For: David Benavidez's mission statement is boxing's most impressive

[boxing IQ]

Ginger b!tched out, David moved up and outgrew 168. Remember when Ginger b!tched that David brings nothing but height and 25lbs more on fight night, then turns around and fights the taller BerNALGAS who weight 25lbs more fight night?
yeah, EVERYONE does

Lol I guess you don't make millions in the sport without attracting at least a few naysayers

[SouthpawRight]

no plans for benavidez just square up and flimsy jab, his wing chunj hail mary defense not working in this

zurdo chin and dance is sinaloa, more precisions in the footwork than cocavidez, punch in between,pound the yay-yo liver

Fat Dave is stationary target for combos that include body and head. Doesn't counter these

Top Soviet Bivol has the skillset and speed to do these body head combos

Bivol's a natural career-long LHW and Canelo looked way smaller on fighter night.

Saul Santos has the frame of a middleweight who grew into 168

Saul Santos looked one division undersized at LHW

There's a lot of truth in that - Benavidez was a weight bully at 168 just as Canelo was at 154.

Fat Gilbert was also a 168 weight bully

rehydrated 30 pounds to 205 in the ring v Top Soviet Bivol

Fat Gilbert v Fat Dave will be battle of the former weight bullies

[PRINCEKOOL]

He is moving up 25 pounds, because? It was inevitable that at some stage in his career 'he will have to fight at his more natural fighting weight. It is as simple as that'.

Note: David Benavidez is similar to Toney Bellew 'a fighter who started his professional boxing career, fighting at 175 pounds. And fought as high as Heavyweight vs. a version of David Haye miles outside of his peak'.

There is nothing heroic or unprecedented about what David Benavidez is doing in my opinion 'I was also not overly impressed with Terrence Crawford when he also after many years of weight draining himself, decided to eventually compete at his more natural fighting weight. At 154 to 168 pounds'.

Many years ago, when David Benavidez was being pushed as some sort of monster fighter at 175 pounds 'I stated? He is not going to survive at 175 pounds for very long, and at some point in his career he may fight as high as the Cruiserweight divisions'.

To conclude: David Benavidez is clearly a solid fighter, but I still don't rate him as an elite level fighter 'Canelo Alvarez was a miles better fighter than him at his peak'.

It will be interesting to see how Benavidez manages a fight, where? His opponent is not overhauled by his offense and brute strength 'because that is when true elite level ability wins fights'.

Zurdo Ramirez is a solid world level fighter, but he is no great shakes himself 'but he has shown a quite impressive level of durability in is fights vs. Chris Billam Smith'.

The Cruiserweight divisions is not really super strong right now, so this is a great opportunity for David Benavidez 'but I would back many of the past great Cruiserweight Champions to beat him such as Oleksandr Uysk and especially David Haye he would completely laser out Benavidez' etc.

[SouthpawRight]

To conclude: David Benavidez is clearly a solid fighter, but I still don't rate him as an elite level fighter 'Canelo Alvarez was a miles better fighter than him at his peak'.

Saul Santos cut the ring off on Caleb and dominated

Fat Dave could not do so on Caleb

Saul Santos has better footwork and was still beat by opps with great footwork

Fat Dave will be fine as long as it isn’t Top Soviet Bivol, Buff Guy Jai, and heavyweight

[Malvado]

Think Benavidez will beat Zurdo decidedly. Though I do think everyone is overlooking Zurdo because of what Bivol did to him. Benavidez isn't Bivol in even if David beats him in the future, styles makes fights. Plus Ramirez acclimated well at Cruiserweight, has had a very good run of Joe Smith Jr, Arsen Goulamirian, Chris Billiam Smith and Yuniel Dorticos. Displaying footwork, angles and high work rate.

Benavidez will struggle more so since he won't get in and out of range as affectively. But nonetheless he has underrated skills, handspeed and high rate accuracy where it likely be quite even at first, but David's body work will pay dividends with Zurdo being caught flush with punch combinations.

[Oregonian]

Lol I guess you don't make millions in the sport without attracting at least a few naysayers

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"A few naysayers"? Really? After cleaning out the 168 division, Canelo elected to fight a bunch of nondescript guys while Benny was his MANDATORY.

Come on! I was a fan of Canelo and I still think he's an ATG but he DUCKED Benavidez for years. There is nothing to defend. And he got beat by Bivol and Crawford which was great!!

[SouthpawRight]

Think Benavidez will beat Zurdo decidedly. Though I do think everyone is overlooking Zurdo because of what Bivol did to him. Benavidez isn't Bivol in even if David beats him in the future, styles makes fights. Plus Ramirez acclimated well at Cruiserweight, has had a very good run of Joe Smith Jr, Arsen Goulamirian, Chris Billiam Smith and Yuniel Dorticos. Displaying footwork, angles and high work rate.

Benavidez will struggle more so since he won't get in and out of range as affectively. But nonetheless he has underrated skills, handspeed and high rate accuracy where it likely be quite even at first, but David's body work will pay dividends with Zurdo being caught flush with punch combinations.

need the feet to stop Fat Dave from getting set to spam fast flurries

Okay Soviet Rusty Gvozdyk had the education downstairs to do so

Fat Gilbert wins 6 rounds I say.

Buff Guy Yarde is British they struggle in close quarters where Fat Dave did the most damage

Fat Gilbert the amigo should be competitive inside

[Malvado]

need the feet to stop Fat Dave from getting set to spam fast flurries

Okay Soviet Rusty Gvozdyk had the education downstairs to do so

Fat Gilbert wins 6 rounds I say.

Buff Guy Yarde is British they struggle in close quarters where Fat Dave did the most damage

Fat Gilbert the amigo should be competitive inside

Benavidez had a torn tendon in his left arm and a metacarpal injury in his right when it came against his fight with Gvozdyk.

So not sure if the Ukranian had much of ability to utilize footwook or body work, when it was more of Benavidez inability to set up any loaded punches nor affective combinations without winding up gassing up. David just dig to the body, boxed and tried to set up single punches which didn't do much but won him rounds.

Do not think it will turn well for Ramirez down the stretch, with accumulation gradually piling up. If it ends in a TKO stoppage, just gives more merit to how fighter performs better based on the occasion with preparation and optimal conditions. If David gets injured during camp, he will pull out unlike before because there is more risk. Moving up and facing an active champion.

Think Zurdo wins at most 4-5 rounds at his best. Possibly 3-4 rounds if the weight jump is not enough of a factor.

[SouthpawRight]

Benavidez had a torn tendon in his left arm and a metacarpal injury in his right when it came against his fight with Gvozdyk.

So not sure if the Ukranian had much of ability to utilize footwook or body work, when it was more of Benavidez inability to set up any loaded punches nor affective combinations without winding up gassing up. David just dig to the body, boxed and tried to set up single punches which didn't do much but won him rounds.

Do not think it will turn well for Ramirez down the stretch, with accumulation gradually piling up. If it ends in a TKO stoppage, just gives more merit to how fighter performs better based on the occasion with preparation and optimal conditions. If David gets injured during camp, he will pull out unlike before because there is more risk. Moving up and facing an active champion.

Think Zurdo wins at most 4-5 rounds at his best. Possibly 3-4 rounds if the weight jump is not enough of a factor.

we'll soon find out how much Fat Dave stamina improves at cruiser where he doesn't need to cut weight

he stated in recent interview that weight cuts were a reason for his stamina

Fat Dave slowed down in each of his final 4 rounds with Gvozdyk and Cuban Dave. Fat Dave's good friend Buff Guy Jai is another one who slows down in the final 4 Mairis got the better of these segments in both fights

I think Fat Dave will rely on body attacks to hurt opps at cruiser

based on Fat Dave's many sparring stories this fight should be a war even if he happens to win 'easily'

[BlackRobb]

He is moving up 25 pounds, because? It was inevitable that at some stage in his career 'he will have to fight at his more natural fighting weight. It is as simple as that'.

Note: David Benavidez is similar to Toney Bellew 'a fighter who started his professional boxing career, fighting at 175 pounds. And fought as high as Heavyweight vs. a version of David Haye miles outside of his peak'.

There is nothing heroic or unprecedented about what David Benavidez is doing in my opinion 'I was also not overly impressed with Terrence Crawford when he also after many years of weight draining himself, decided to eventually compete at his more natural fighting weight. At 154 to 168 pounds'.

Many years ago, when David Benavidez was being pushed as some sort of monster fighter at 175 pounds 'I stated? He is not going to survive at 175 pounds for very long, and at some point in his career he may fight as high as the Cruiserweight divisions'.

To conclude: David Benavidez is clearly a solid fighter, but I still don't rate him as an elite level fighter 'Canelo Alvarez was a miles better fighter than him at his peak'.

It will be interesting to see how Benavidez manages a fight, where? His opponent is not overhauled by his offense and brute strength 'because that is when true elite level ability wins fights'.

Zurdo Ramirez is a solid world level fighter, but he is no great shakes himself 'but he has shown a quite impressive level of durability in is fights vs. Chris Billam Smith'.

The Cruiserweight divisions is not really super strong right now, so this is a great opportunity for David Benavidez 'but I would back many of the past great Cruiserweight Champions to beat him such as Oleksandr Uysk and especially David Haye he would completely laser out Benavidez' etc.

Are you on drugs? Crawford was at most a natural welterweight. No sane person believes he was a natural middleweight. No one.