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  • SouthpawRight
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    #1

    Placing Oleksandr in the Same Tier of Greatness as Roy

    Spray_resistant very great fighters but TBud is bufferdaggum

    Fair to place him in the same neighborhood as Roy

    Roy has Bernard, James, and Felix

    Oleksandr has Fury, Anthony, and Mairis

    both had success in multiple weights

    Roy looked godly while Oleksandr always looks mortal

    Oleksandr makes up for this with longevity. Roy has some bad losses
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    If you think about it Bud has just a few really good wins but got them in impressive fashion, Roy is rated so high based on fantasy fights mostly because of how gifted he was. Usyk is having a very consistent solid run dominating Cruiser then moving up as a small HW to become the one true champion of the division. totally different circumstances all 3.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
      If you think about it Bud has just a few really good wins but got them in impressive fashion, Roy is rated so high based on fantasy fights mostly because of how gifted he was. Usyk is having a very consistent solid run dominating Cruiser then moving up as a small HW to become the one true champion of the division. totally different circumstances all 3.
      TBud is the definition of how one super great win made him go to legendary from borderline footnote that only diehard boxings would remember

      Going up 2 to 3 weights to 9-3 the real champ who was p4p was a BUFF VICTORY

      if not for this win TBud would be among one of many great multiple division champs

      this one win warranted the comparisons of TBud v MYTHICAL MAYWEATHER

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        Originally posted by SouthpawRight
        TBud is the definition of how one super great win made him go to legendary from borderline footnote that only diehard boxings would remember

        Going up 2 to 3 weights to 9-3 the real champ who was p4p was a BUFF VICTORY

        if not for this win TBud would be among one of many great multiple division champs

        this one win warranted the comparisons of TBud v MYTHICAL MAYWEATHER
        True, and it was something special but other than that, Spence was viewed as a 50/50 and he easily took him apart so another great win. After that I think he was heavily favored to win every other major fight he was in.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant

          True, and it was something special but other than that, Spence was viewed as a 50/50 and he easily took him apart so another great win. After that I think he was heavily favored to win every other major fight he was in.
          echoing Floyd-Diego [hof] and the odds towards Floyd throughout his career

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            #6
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            echoing Floyd-Diego [hof] and the odds towards Floyd throughout his career
            I thought of Floyd when I typed that and yeah, he was almost never up against it and fought an even fight with Maidana who Devon Alexander shutout in a 10rder in the most dominant performance you can have without a stoppage or any KDs Floyd is very overrated and was carefully managed.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              Spray_resistant very great fighters but TBud is bufferdaggum

              Fair to place him in the same neighborhood as Roy

              Roy has Bernard, James, and Felix

              Oleksandr has Fury, Anthony, and Mairis

              both had success in multiple weights

              Roy looked godly while Oleksandr always looks mortal

              Oleksandr makes up for this with longevity. Roy has some bad losses

              Roy has Bernard and James. Let's not count the Felix fight. That looked more like an exhibition fantasy fight. Both were over the hill when it happened.

              Roy looked godly against any subpar competition. To me Oleksandr always puts in the work. He's not trying to be brodacious. He goes in, puts in the performance needed to get the W. Whether that's a dominant decision or a KO.

              Roy on the other hand definitely wanted to perform to the audience and for the accolades. He was listening to the hype and that played into how he would fight.

              Usyk has none of that. He simply doesn't care. He relies on his training, knows his body and what he's capable of and goes in to get the win.

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                #8
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                Spray_resistant very great fighters but TBud is bufferdaggum

                Fair to place him in the same neighborhood as Roy

                Roy has Bernard, James, and Felix

                Oleksandr has Fury, Anthony, and Mairis

                both had success in multiple weights

                Roy looked godly while Oleksandr always looks mortal

                Oleksandr makes up for this with longevity. Roy has some bad losses









                Usyk did not abuse ROIDS, nor did he duck people.

                As such Roy is in a class of his own.

                And he did not get KO'd by one punch early in a match as Roy did.


                Now Jones has special hand speed, but that is just one part of the equation.

                If the two meet in the ring at their best, Usyk beats him.


                Close examination of Roy's best wins reveal he was in his prime while the other guy was not ( AGE ) or significantly smaller.

                I do think Roy was a better pound for pound ....Businessman.


                Last edited by Dr Z; 03-15-2026, 07:39 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dr Z
                  Usyk did not duck people.
                  oleksandr is ducking right now via fight one a year and plans for junk rematches

                  one a year olek skipped joseph and kabayel

                  precooked excuses in place to jeet Biblical Moses

                  kickboxer
                  winner of Daniel Fabio
                  bollocks trilogy Flabby Fury 3

                  Again Daniel and Flabby Fury are junk rematches

                  lacking names in his pick and choose reign since he became top heavy in May 2024

                  bollocks trilogy Flabby Fury 3
                  winner of Daniel Fabio
                  kickboxer

                  okay rematch Daniel 2
                  good rematch Flabby Fury 2

                  Oleksandr plans to have a lame duck reign

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                    oleksandr is ducking right now via fight one a year and plans for junk rematches

                    one a year olek skipped joseph and kabayel

                    precooked excuses in place to jeet Biblical Moses

                    kickboxer
                    winner of Daniel Fabio
                    bollocks trilogy Flabby Fury 3

                    Again Daniel and Flabby Fury are junk rematches

                    lacking names in his pick and choose reign since he became top heavy in May 2024

                    bollocks trilogy Flabby Fury 3
                    winner of Daniel Fabio
                    kickboxer

                    okay rematch Daniel 2
                    good rematch Flabby Fury 2

                    Oleksandr plans to have a lame duck reign



                    Straight from the horses mouth: Kabayel does not want a title shot going through the front door like everyone else. Why is it Usyk's problem that Kabayel is scared of the gypsy king ? How can you duck one that is scared of the one you are going to fight ?

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