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  • The D3vil
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    #81
    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
    yet the moderns lift and became bigger anyways

    there must be a functional strength benefit from hitting the weights
    Yeah, it makes you FEEL like you're doing something.

    Teddy Atlas talks about this all the time, how the obsession with weight training has ruined the sport.

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      #82
      Originally posted by djtmal

      Gtfoh they were both lightweights and the fact remains Shane called him out. Asked Floyd to come up 1 division and get that smoke.

      Floyd came up with some crap about trying to break Monzon's title defense streak. Yeah ok

      Sound like he moved up when he knew the coast was clear
      They were never lightweights at the same time. Fact.

      In fact Floyd didn’t move up to lightweight until 3 years after Mosley had left the division.
      Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-28-2026, 02:51 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        They were never lightweights at the same time.
        Lol. Jr Lightweight and Lightweight is what a Lightweight

        Any excuse to dismiss Shane calling him out first

        When Floyd was a full fledged welterweight he dragged Marquez up two weight classes from lightweight and wanted full credit

        Feel free to insert more Floyd excuses here:

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        Last edited by djtmal; 01-28-2026, 05:36 PM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll



          In fact Floyd didn’t move up to lightweight until 3 years after Mosley had left the division.
          Yeah all the fast sharp guys were gone by then

          Unless you want to count that will o the wisp Castillo
          Last edited by djtmal; 01-28-2026, 01:46 PM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            Bro Floyd and manny have 5 shared opps with Floyd fighting 3/5 first

            so they’re either both too tactical matchmaking or both willing to take on most comers
            For sure but Manny's faced more quality opponents in their prime e.g. Bradley, Thurman, Cotto etc whereas Floyd has only really fought Hatton.

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              #86
              Originally posted by HisExcellency

              For sure but Manny's faced more quality opponents in their prime e.g. Bradley, Thurman, Cotto etc whereas Floyd has only really fought Hatton.
              Corrales also

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                #87

                Originally posted by djtmal

                Lol. Jr Lightweight and Lightweight is what a Lightweight


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                Two different divisions. Lightweight has a weight limit of 135 lbs, for jr lightweight it is 130 lbs.

                Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather were never at lightweight at the same time.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll



                  Two different divisions. Lightweight has a weight limit of 135 lbs, for jr lightweight it is 130 lbs.

                  Lol

                  That's an excuse.

                  Shane called Floyd out down there. Asked him if he planned on stepping up 5lbs and getting that smoke.

                  I am quite sure the weight could have been negotiated if Floyd decided to step up.

                  Floyd said no.

                  That was the best version of both those guys in their prime. Winner would get full credit.

                  It's funny how you Floyd boys love to say everybody was ducking Pretty Boy, but the excuses fly for all of his ducks




                  Last edited by djtmal; 01-29-2026, 01:37 PM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll





                    Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather were never at lightweight at the same time.
                    Yeah right and Marquez wasn't a welterweight

                    You must be auditioning to be chief Floyd excuse boy
                    Last edited by djtmal; 01-29-2026, 01:48 PM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      Yeah right and Marquez wasn't a welterweight

                      You must be auditioning to be chief Floyd excuse boy
                      Shane and Floyd were never in the lightweight division at the same time. Prove me wrong.

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