I UNDERSTAND why people think Sugar Ray was the GOAT

[HisExcellency]

Sugar Robinson went above and beyond dropping opps with his OTHER power hand the right

Sugar right would knock opps out cold ROCKY GRAZIANO. Sometimes body knockouts instead

manny became two handed but Sugar Robinson was in his own league offensively

long right hook impacting the kidney

one of the few in boxing history who could regularly do rear uppers at range without getting clipped

double even triple consecutive hooks from the same hand whereas manny alternated hands

His mastery of looping strikes exceeded what manny developed

Sugar Robinson right was far better than manny right

SRR was obviously the better boxer and more talented than Pacquiao (hence why he's the GOAT). However, Pacquiao definitely had KO power in both hands and the damage accumulated from being dropped by his right hooks led to a lot of knockouts e.g. Hatton & Cotto.

[hugh grant]

no

manny is a headhunter who needs to land his backhand for knockouts

Sugar Robinson would ko with either hand and regularly go to the body

manny is far behind Sugar Robinson when it comes to back foot boxing, jabbing, and close quarters fighting

Sugar Robinson beat Willie as amateurs. manny fumbled hard against his defensive wizard. Different leagues when it comes to cutting off the ring

guys who are like Sugar Robinson are Muhammad for the movement and Sugar Leonard for the offense

Floyd's just too specialised, not to get hit. More like a circus act performer similar to herol Graham used to have his hands tied behind his back and invite little kids to hit him, similar to Tyson fury giving Rolex to anyone who can hit him.

[ShoulderRoll]

His fighting style is completely unique and almost impossible to win against...extreme speed, extreme athleticism, extreme combinations combined with extreme leverage and torque on his punches.

Yes. But you left out his extreme skill and high boxing IQ.

It is that combination of athletic traits along with knowing how to box superbly that sets him apart. Something not seen in the modern era except in perhaps Roy Jones. But Sugar Ray Robinson was also tough as hell, Roy’s punch resistance we found out was lacking.

[SouthpawRight]

King Floyd is the GOAT.

Floyd's just too specialised, not to get hit. More like a circus act performer similar to herol Graham used to have his hands tied behind his back and invite little kids to hit him, similar to Tyson fury giving Rolex to anyone who can hit him.

While Floyd is the best skilled defender ever

he was also offensively excellent being the most accurate puncher in recorded history

SRR was obviously the better boxer and more talented than Pacquiao (hence why he's the GOAT). However, Pacquiao definitely had KO power in both hands and the damage accumulated from being dropped by his right hooks led to a lot of knockouts e.g. Hatton & Cotto.

Yes. But you left out his extreme skill and high boxing IQ.

It is that combination of athletic traits along with knowing how to box superbly that sets him apart. Something not seen in the modern era except in perhaps Roy Jones. But Sugar Ray Robinson was also tough as hell, Roy’s punch resistance we found out was lacking.

Sugar Robinson had some combos that you seldom see today

jab + ranged right hook to the flank of the body + ripping left hook into the midsection + left hook to the head sometimes doubled

he was a fleet footed gliding boxer but would attack the body religiously

he was still the best when past prime starting at 33 years old in the unretired part of his boxing career that included beating Hall of Famers Bobo, Gene, and Carmen

it wasn't until 38 years old when Sugar Robinson became over the hill due to age related stamina issues as he was outworked down the stretch twice by Paul

Robbed at 39 when he beat Gene wide in the trilogy

Washed up Sugar Robinson at 40+ then went onto beat Denny and Ralph who'd go onto become 154 world champs + beat some regional euroid champs

Sugar Robinson would be an aged 154 beating prime bigger guys

[djtmal]

Yes. But you left out his extreme skill and high boxing IQ.

It is that combination of athletic traits along with knowing how to box superbly that sets him apart.

It's easy to do that against the same slow come forward flat footed shopworn fighter,

Then Floyd never showed what happens when none of that is working can he dig deep

[HisExcellency]

Yes. But you left out his extreme skill and high boxing IQ.

It is that combination of athletic traits along with knowing how to box superbly that sets him apart. Something not seen in the modern era except in perhaps Roy Jones. But Sugar Ray Robinson was also tough as hell, Roy’s punch resistance we found out was lacking.

Yeah that too...it was like GOD built the perfect fighter...extreme IQ, athleticism, speed, combinations, leverage and torque plus KO power in both hands.

RJJ & fight IQ aside, I think Pacquiao is the only fighter who matches him in all other attributes in the modern era.

[HisExcellency]

It's easy to do that against the same slow come forward flat footed shopworn fighter,

Then Floyd never showed what happens when none of that is working can he dig deep

To be fair Mayweather showed a great chin, toughness and heart when Mosley almost decapitated him twice.

[HisExcellency]

While Floyd is the best skilled defender ever

he was also offensively excellent being the most accurate puncher in recorded history
Sugar Robinson had some combos that you seldom see today

jab + ranged right hook to the flank of the body + ripping left hook into the midsection + left hook to the head sometimes doubled

he was a fleet footed gliding boxer but would attack the body religiously

he was still the best when past prime starting at 33 years old in the unretired part of his boxing career that included beating Hall of Famers Bobo, Gene, and Carmen

it wasn't until 38 years old when Sugar Robinson became over the hill due to age related stamina issues as he was outworked down the stretch twice by Paul

Robbed at 39 when he beat Gene wide in the trilogy

Washed up Sugar Robinson at 40+ then went onto beat Denny and Ralph who'd go onto become 154 world champs + beat some regional euroid champs

Sugar Robinson would be an aged 154 beating prime bigger guys

Yeah he had a very unique and unorthodox fighting style. However, the thing I like MOST about him was the fact that he was an 'old school fighter' who was willing to face anybody in any weight class at any time. In other words, he didn't care about protecting his '0' and preferred chasing glory instead. That's why he had 201 pro fights and retired at 44.

Fighter's nowadays (bar Pacquiao) simply DON'T take those kind of risks.

[djtmal]

To be fair Mayweather showed a great chin, toughness and heart when Mosley almost decapitated him twice.

Shane Mosley was pushing 40 and was too shopworn to follow up

[djtmal]

Floyd's just too specialised, not to get hit. More like a circus act performer similar to herol Graham used to have his hands tied behind his back and invite little kids to hit him, similar to Tyson fury giving Rolex to anyone who can hit him.

Floyd will literally run before he gets hit

Or just hold the refs will help him out