Do losses count as part of your resume?

[dans]

A loss can say just as much about a fighter as a win in many situations. A fighter with 2 losses against Elite opposition can be more impressive than a fighter with 4 wins against poor opposition. For example, What is more impressive, Winky Wright's losses and draw to Hopkins, Taylor and Williams or John Duddy's knockout victories over Tomato Cans?

but what if you accomplished something even in loss?
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so while I dont think losses should be an asset per se I don't think all losses are bad

I agree with both of you I'm just saying that you cannot just say for instance "JMM has Floyd Mayweather on his resume, so it's better than _____________ (insert fighter's name)."

[dans]

if loses counted as your resume...journeymen and gate keepers would have the best resumes...

Thanks Larry. Someone agrees with me.

Don't get me wrong, you can be impressive in a loss, but that doesn't count as part of your resume. Resume IS what you've accomplished, your record is completely different.

[S.G.]

I believe so. They contribute towards your overall standard of opposition and it's possible to earn credit even in defeat

Obviously they should not be valued on the same level as a win but they still count.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Thanks Larry. Someone agrees with me.

Don't get me wrong, you can be impressive in a loss, but that doesn't count as part of your resume. Resume IS what you've accomplished, your record is completely different.

Of course they do because even if you are a journey man, you will always hear the people that they have fought, that's their resume.

As a matter of fact, there is a fighter named Juliano Ramos training in our gym. He's about to fight Kermit Cintron and his trainer said Kermit has a better "resume" than him because he's fought the like sof Margarito and Angulo and so on. Even though they were losses they were part of his RESUME.

[dans]

Of course they do because even if you are a journey man, you will always hear the people that they have fought, that's their resume.

As a matter of fact, there is a fighter named Juliano Ramos training in our gym. He's about to fight Kermit Cintron and his trainer said Kermit has a better "resume" than him because he's fought the like sof Margarito and Angulo and so on. Even though they were losses they were part of his RESUME.

He's fought better opposition and has better names on his record, to me that's not your resume. What you call resume, I call your record. Difference in opinion in terms of the word. I consider "resume" as what you've accomplished.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Of course they do because even if you are a journey man, you will always hear the people that they have fought, that's their resume.

As a matter of fact, there is a fighter named Juliano Ramos training in our gym. He's about to fight Kermit Cintron and his trainer said Kermit has a better "resume" than him because he's fought the like sof Margarito and Angulo and so on. Even though they were losses they were part of his RESUME.

Totally agree with you!!!

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

He's fought better opposition and has better names on his record, to me that's not your resume. What you call resume, I call your record. Difference in opinion in terms of the word. I consider "resume" as what you've accomplished.

Wrong there buddy.

Record is ?-?-?(?KOs)

Resume = Who you fought

Accomplishments = Well the word is self explanatory. The things you have accomplished, wheter is winning a titlle have so and so titles in so many divisions etc.

[dans]

Totally agree with you!!!

Our understanding of the word resume is slightly different. As you and him see the word "resume", then yes you're correct. But to me, your resume is not who you've fought, it's who you beat.

[Joe2608]

If you put in a good performance and it was close/robbery then yes it should count.
But those fights should not be the fights that you are remembered for, for example Vitali is best known for losing to Lewis, Kessler for Calzaghe etc.
Not to say they are bad fighters, but they need to beef up their resumes.

[dans]

Wrong there buddy.

Record is ?-?-?(?KOs)

Resume = Who you fought

Accomplishments = Well the word is self explanatory. The things you have accomplished, wheter is winning a titlle have so and so titles in so many divisions etc.

Not to me. Resume is not who you fought, it's who you beat.

Level of opposition = who you fought