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  • ODLH Chicano Goat
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    #21
    Originally posted by pretty boy_

    Sig it up. 1 condition no gay stuff for the sig bet, I know how you Hoya fans be.
    Sigged, and imma do you dirty for that De La Hoya swipe Lmao...

    Teo's got this.

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    • ODLH Chicano Goat
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      #22
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      After Stevenson wins there will be a bunch of excuses and none of the people predicting Shakur to lose will give him any credit at all. That's the way it goes around here.
      Huge props if Stevenson wins Top 5 p4p easy.

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        #23
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        I need to look at them both more but as of right now I think Shakur boxes his head off.

        I am not one of these who thinks Shakur is some otherworldly talent but I have seen Teo get outboxed way, way too many times by pure boxers and similar style fighters to Shakur.
        The guy has struggled real bad or lost to every pure-boxer now he's going to suddenly beat Shakur? Hmm
        Eh, Stevenson struggled mightily against pure-boxer De Los Santos so he's not perfect either. 135 is Stevenson's ceiling IMO.

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        • ODLH Chicano Goat
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          #24
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight
          the fight we really want to see

          Shakur Devin in 2027

          both keep surviving and thriving in the meantime
          In 2027 Haney will be a full blown 154 pounder

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            #25
            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
            Great match up. We'll see what both men are made of. I think Stevenson frustrates Teo and takes the decision.
            New York vs New Jersey the crowd is going to be electric. They'll both be firing on all cylinders. Im not buying the whole boring chess match BS.

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            • SouthpawRight
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              #26
              Originally posted by ODLH Chicano Goat

              Eh, Stevenson struggled mightily against pure-boxer De Los Santos so he's not perfect either. 135 is Stevenson's ceiling IMO.

              Shakur is more dedicated than Adrien

              but people getting too excited prematurely declaring he the next Floyd lol

              he defensively inspired by Floyd but it's not the same level

              and Floyd offense was vastly superior

              Originally posted by ODLH Chicano Goat

              In 2027 Haney will be a full blown 154 pounder
              oh yes the Devin is a massive weight cutter

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              • Quiksilva
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                #27
                I'm not really a fan of either guys, but I will pick Stevenson to beat Teo. I think Shakur is one of the best technical boxers atm..

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                • dan_cov
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ODLH Chicano Goat

                  Eh, Stevenson struggled mightily against pure-boxer De Los Santos so he's not perfect either. 135 is Stevenson's ceiling IMO.


                  I get the point and I have no excuse for the **** performance from either of them, it was one of the worst 'fights' if you can even call it that, that I have ever had the misfortune of watching.

                  Like I said I need to check both out in actual detail rather than as a fan if you will. I do not think Shakur is as great or dare I say talented as some people do but when I think of Teo vs southpaws and pure-boxers I think of him getting outboxed by Kamboses, by the Spaniard whose name escapes me - granted he's very underrated and probably gives Shakur a tough fight also. I felt the fight with Ortiz was razor thin.
                  That's 3 pure-boxers he's fought, he could be 0-3 vs them.

                  As horrendous as that fight with DLS was I could easily see this playing out similar. I remember Teo being massively frustrated vs Ortiz and the Spaniard and he ran into multiple check-hooks and got dropped by a total non-puncher. He's very hot headed when someone won't engage and makes him do the chasing and lead.
                  Teo is extremely athletic and explosive and like virtually every other super fast-twitch, athletic fighter he isn't the most fundamentally sound so he without those fundamentals he's always going to struggle massively vs pure-boxers who have the basics, the fundamentals down.

                  I think Teo is bigger, stronger, a better athlete, better balance, hits harder, maybe even has better reaction timing but I just think it comes to styles and Shakur being more polished and the better technical boxer. As boring as he is, his composure. I think that simply neutralises the advantages of Teo.

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                  • Haka
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                    #29
                    Coming from a lower weight class and being a defensive fighter it is easy to get overpowered and all that defensive movement can easily blow up in your face against a non scripted opponent, since Teo is in his physical prime he can override a disadvantage in fundamentals with grit and aggressiveness and should be able to get the W in any way.

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                    • pretty boy_
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ODLH Chicano Goat

                      Sigged, and imma do you dirty for that De La Hoya swipe Lmao...

                      Teo's got this.
                      Haha alright good luck with your pick you're going to need it it.

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