Usyk vs Wilder is a DISGRACE

[hugh grant]

He isn't fighting Kabayel or Fabio. They are not big names. Wilder is washed but a bigger name and more will watch it then the other 2. The only other name that he might be motivated to fight is Itauma but really that fight is too early and their paths should not even cross

Not big names? I know who they are? I don't know who he can fight then

[Boxing 112]

Not big names? I know who they are? I don't know who he can fight then

Barely anyone in the US will know them outside of regular boxing fans

[NihonJim]

Barely anyone in the US will know them outside of regular boxing fans

Bro nobody gives a **** about the US market when was the last big heavyweight fight there fury vs Wilder 3 that was like 7 years ago

[SouthpawRight]

No, if Usyk fights him I hope he DOES

DEONTAY WILDER EXPLAINS WHY HE DOESNT JOG (AT ALL)

[RockyKO]

I don't think he's going fight Itauma. Usyk is probably old enough to be his Dad and they're from two different eras. Once Usyk retires then it's going to be the Itauma show. Usyk has given us fans a lot of good memories so I don't expect him to go to war with someone like Itauma at the end of his career. If Usyk loses then it diminishes his fabulous career and if Itauma loses then it hurts the hype and build up of a superstar. I agree that he should be fighting Fabio Wardley or Parker whose closer to his age and talent. But it doesn't sound like the Saudis wanted to pay him for a good fight.

If it's Usyk vs Wilder and it's PPV then the undercard needs to be great lol.

[SouthpawRight]

I don't think he's going fight Itauma. Usyk is probably old enough to be his Dad and they're from two different eras. Once Usyk retires then it's going to be the Itauma show. Usyk has given us fans a lot of good memories so I don't expect him to go to war with someone like Itauma at the end of his career. If Usyk loses then it diminishes his fabulous career and if Itauma loses then it hurts the hype and build up of a superstar. I agree that he should be fighting Fabio Wardley or Parker whose closer to his age and talent. But it doesn't sound like the Saudis wanted to pay him for a good fight.

If it's Usyk vs Wilder and it's PPV then the undercard needs to be great lol.

we'll see

Undercards be lacking without Riyadh

even then Riyadh gives two super great cards per year

Saul-TBud undercard was meh given how important the main event was

[VislorTurlough]

Some folks getting too worked up about a gimme optional defense. Makes total sense as it will look good on his HOF resume as time passes. If Usyk were fighting trash opponents lately this would be unacceptable. But he has had 5 straight defenses against top 5 opponents. Wilder doesn’t deserve the shot at all but it’s a business and U.S. market of 300+ M population can be sold this with old outdated wilder highlight reels

[SouthpawRight]

Some folks getting too worked up about a gimme optional defense. Makes total sense as it will look good on his HOF resume as time passes. If Usyk were fighting trash opponents lately this would be unacceptable. But he has had 5 straight defenses against top 5 opponents. Wilder doesn’t deserve the shot at all but it’s a business and U.S. market of 300+ M population can be sold this with old outdated wilder highlight reels

+ Deontay bad performances against Joseph and Zhilei happened in Saudi so many Americans dunno how deteriorated he is

[Boxing 112]

Bro nobody gives a **** about the US market when was the last big heavyweight fight there fury vs Wilder 3 that was like 7 years ago

Well now there is another. Usyk Wilder.

[PRINCEKOOL]

There may be a few men in the moment, who are currently right now ranked ahead of Deontay Wilder 'but if Moses Itauma, Agit Kabayel would retire tomorrow. Their legacies and resumes have minimal impact of the sport and history of boxing'.

Deontay Wilder in comparison is one of the three heavyweight mountains of this era 'along with Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

Oleksandr Uysk has already faced and beaten Fury and Joshua twice back to back 'and now? It makes perfect sense to me, as a competitor and fighter from their generation. That Usyk would now want to compete against Deontay Wilder, who is the only remaining Heavyweight Mountain of this era that he has not beaten'.

Note: Deontay Wilder's resume on a fight by fight basis is not super great 'but he was the WBC Heavyweight Champion, and made 10 defenses of his titles against all comers. Including being involved in the greatest heavyweight rivalry and trilogy vs Tyson Fury since Evander Holyfield vs Rid**** Bowe'.

Agit Kayabel has been boxing for many years; he turned professional before Anthony Joshua 'and for the large majority of his career has been a non-factor at top level in the sport. In my opinion, he has only really become a factor a top level during the latter part of his era. Because the heavyweight terrain has decreased in competitiveness during the conclusive stages of this era'.

To conclude: Overall I don't see the big deal with fighters like Agit Kabayel 'like I have just stated at the beginning of my posts. Agit Kabayel turned professional before Anthony Joshua, he was an active heavyweight fighter during the peak years of this heavyweight era, and was still a non-factor at top level. Just because he has suddenly decided to start winning a few top level fights, I don't think this automatically deserves him a place ahead of fighters such as Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua or even still Deontay Wilder'.

And then we have Moses Itauma another man in the moment 'who has beaten nobody, and has not really been involved in a real fight in his professional career that has not been manufactured for him to win'.

The fight against Deontay Wilder is historically more significant than fighting ether Agit Kabayel or Moses Itauma 'and that is why I think it makes perfect sense at this stage of his career to be pursuing such a potential fight' etc.