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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
    Pacquiao dont led his hands go unless he have a mummy in front. And when he does he swings wild as hell.

    Oh I see!!!!!

    That doesnt mean he is better fighter underpressure or more effective. Its just that you happend to like what he does. And again, when he is pressure and pushed back he dont even throw.

    Cotto was never hurt by Mosely, Judah Abdullaev nor Clottey. Stunned? yes, hurt? no. Only guys who have hurt Cotto are Corley(Temple shot) and Torres who wreacked Cottto

    The rest is just opinon and you have yours and I have mind.

    So if you count them, Cotto is the better skilled of the 2 and cant bat Manny in more than 1 way than just for being bigger.

    Case Close, thank You very much!!
    This got nothin to do wit taste Ch@mp. Both guys are excitin to watch, so i like what both do. Cotto concentrates on precision more than Pac, includin when he on the offensive. Pac simply throws more. He ain't a heavy slugger who decks guys wit 1 blow, he smokes em wit volume.

    When you see Pac just back away without throwin at all, unless it's to do his clap/taunt thing after he gets hit?

    I specified the hits Cotto took in terms of bein slightly stung or actually hurt.

    We know what they can do based on past fights. We dunno for fact what they can do against each other yet, so this is all based on the style clash. What I'm sayin is of all their best attributes, Pac can use more of his against Cotto than Cotto can against him. But he has to not get KTFO to do it. And against a bigger guy who got serious pop, I don't think he can. Cotto would have to tire first. I know Cotto is your guy, I'm just bein honest homey.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mangler View Post
      This got nothin to do wit taste Ch@mp. Both guys are excitin to watch, so i like what both do. Cotto concentrates on precision more than Pac, includin when he on the offensive. Pac simply throws more. He ain't a heavy slugger who decks guys wit 1 blow, he smokes em wit volume.

      When you see Pac just back away without throwin at all, unless it's to do his clap/taunt thing after he gets hit?

      I specified the hits Cotto took in terms of bein slightly stung or actually hurt.

      We know what they can do based on past fights. We dunno for fact what they can do against each other yet, so this is all based on the style clash. What I'm sayin is of all their best attributes, Pac can use more of his against Cotto than Cotto can against him. But he has to not get KTFO to do it. And against a bigger guy who got serious pop, I don't think he can. Cotto would have to tire first. I know Cotto is your guy, I'm just bein honest homey.
      Ill ask you. When pacquiao throws when he moves backwards? Find a fight that he is moving backwards and he throws a single.

      Anyways all of that sounds pretty, but you still didnt said why Cotto cant win the fight besides because of him being bigger. You know thats bull****!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by alexpz View Post
        How do you differentiate between stun and hurt?
        Look Cotto against Torres here he was really hurt and watch him against Judah.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
          Ill ask you. When pacquiao throws when he moves backwards? Find a fight that he is moving backwards and he throws a single.

          Anyways all of that sounds pretty, but you still didnt said why Cotto cant win the fight besides because of him being bigger. You know thats bull****!
          I keep sayin I don't mean 'fightin under pressure' as in punchin goin backwards. He don't do that at all. I mean punchin back as opposed to movin when an exchange breaks out. Pac is more of a puncher where Cotto is more of a boxer. And I explained in detail why I think Cotto's size and power is why I pick him to win. Not 'just becuz.' I pointed out exactly what I can see happenin in this fight. To make a long story short, if Pac was the same size I'd pick him to win instantly. That ain't the case tho. I don't see Cotto winnin a decision, cuz I don't see him outboxin or outworkin Pac. I think he wins by KO, cuz Pac is too goddamn small to take his best shots.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
            Ill ask you. When pacquiao throws when he moves backwards? Find a fight that he is moving backwards and he throws a single.
            In Morrales 3 comes to mind



            1:40

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
              Ill ask you. When pacquiao throws when he moves backwards? Find a fight that he is moving backwards and he throws a single.



              Originally posted by Syf View Post
              In Morrales 3 comes to mind



              1:40

              where did champ go?
              Last edited by -MAKAVELLI-; 10-21-2009, 03:56 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
                where did champ go?
                he went to cash his wic check.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Syf View Post
                  In Morrales 3 comes to mind



                  1:40
                  Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
                  where did champ go?
                  So he threw 1 punch in 40+ some fights and just because he was falling into the ropes.
                  Dude doesnt know how to fight backwards and doest throw when pushed back.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                    So he threw 1 punch in 40+ some fights and just because he was falling into the ropes.
                    Dude doesnt know how to fight backwards and doest throw when pushed back.


                    he repeatedly tagged hatton while goin backwards

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                      So he threw 1 punch in 40+ some fights and just because he was falling into the ropes.
                      Dude doesnt know how to fight backwards and doest throw when pushed back.
                      lol.

                      Yeah i tend to agree that he doesn't really fight going backwards..he's more of a stand his ground or coming forwards fighter, but you asked for a time, so voila.

                      Though, I will add Pacquiao is a dog that can learn new tricks, whereas I believe Cotto is stuck in his ways, as good as they may be. You can't base Pac's current level of aptitude as far as ring smarts go, on his previous fights. He's always improving. He has quite a team working on him over there.. Roach, Ariza... ect, and they are going to attempt to prepare him for all the stylistic problems a Cotto would present. Including that one punch ko to the body that everyone seems to be banking on.

                      Just look at the Pac that fought Morrales compared to the Pac that fought DLH and Hatton. Night and day as far as lateral movement, head movement, evasiveness, and really bearing down on his punches, homie.

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