Carl Froch: "Andre Dirrell Tried To Steal a Decision"

[-Hyperion-]

Froch is a fraud....kessler will take his head off.....

[arnold_jasper]

[QUOTE=Bhopreign;6429793]

Lol where are you from, youre obviously pretty new to the sport of boxing. Why do you keep bringing up audience cheering, thats irrelavant. Im talking about boxing basics. No different than a great running football team who doesnt pass as well, they will stick to their strong suit, which is running the football. Sure fans would enjoy to watch a team air it out over smashmouth running but what do you think the coach is thinking about the ticketholder or guaranteeing a win?

Hopkins trainer said the same thing, which is common sense, he said anybody who thinks Dirrell should have ****** with Froch is dumb, boxing is stick and move, hit and not get hit. If Froch had the talent that Dirrell has then he wouldnt fight the way he does.

You can't compare football to boxing. Football design is to run, not in boxing. The basic of boxing is boxing not running as what dirrel did. You're dumb, you don't get it. I am not totally against running and holding because it is part of it but to much of it is not good as what dirrel did. In his performance in that fight, he don't deserve to win. That's what I want to emphasize.

I brought the audience issue as evidenced of what style in boxing the boxing fans love and like to see.

Hit and not to get hit is by using your speed, body movement and footwork in order to avoid the punch, not to run to avoid of getting hit.

Hopkin trainer will diffinitely said that because hopkin has the same style.

[Bhopreign]

[QUOTE=arnold_jasper;6429833]

You can't compare football to boxing. Football design is to run, not in boxing. The basic of boxing is boxing not running as what dirrel did. You're dumb, you don't get it. I am not totally against running and holding because it is part of it but to much of it is not good as what dirrel did. In his performance in that fight, he don't deserve to win. That's what I want to emphasize.

I brought the audience issue as evidenced of what style in boxing the boxing fans love and like to see.

Hit and not to get hit is by using your speed, body movement and footwork in order to avoid the punch, not to run to avoid of getting hit.

Hopkin trainer will diffinitely said that because hopkin has the same style.

Youve missed everybody's point their trying to make, my point was not the actual running in football but the fact that ANY team is going to stick to what they do best. Many didnt like the fact Dirrell didnt stand his ground as much as he probably should have, Im one of them, but that doesnt take away the fact that he should have gotten the decision.

[The_Demon]

Froch is a fraud....kessler will take his head off.....

and i cant wait too see it
froch is a joke

[jaymo2k]

I went, and I had Froch to win, but only courtesy of the deducted point. Otherwise, obviously it was a draw.

Dirrell showed some great skill, landed more and got the cleaner and probably stronger shots in, and he clearly hurt Froch in the last couple of rounds. But I gave Froch the vast majority of the middle rounds because Dirrell had no intentions of actually fighting in a lot of them. He ran, and when he got cornered, he clinched, and hung on.

Dirrell had a game plan to spoil, he stuck to it throughout until the balance swung in his favour and I massively respect him for that and for his skill and for going to Frochs hometown in front of a serious homer crowd, but Froch won by showing aggression throughout.

We all know judges dont score just on punches landed, theres so many intangibles, and showing aggression is a massive one.

[arnold_jasper]

[QUOTE=Bhopreign;6429854]

Youve missed everybody's point their trying to make, my point was not the actual running in football but the fact that ANY team is going to stick to what they do best. Many didnt like the fact Dirrell didnt stand his ground as much as he probably should have, Im one of them, but that doesnt take away the fact that he should have gotten the decision.

Your mind is going crazy. now you say you're one of those who did not like what dirrel did because he didn't stand his ground as much as he probably should have. But why you want to give him the decision? Only a fool or ****** judges will give him the decision the way he fought in that fight.

[Syf]

That is what I am saying man. It is you that don't get it. what's the use of such condtitioning and training if you didn't go there and fight. Putting yourself in training, conditioning and putting yourself against top competitors are not by itself bravery. Bravery and courage shows how you applied your training in the ring. The logic of hit and not to get hit is not to say run and run in order not to get hit. Use your skill of movement but not to run. How you can win in boxing when you are running. Wrong application man..

Training takes a lot of heart to do right. Late night/morning road work sessions.. sparring with hungry opponents/ pushing limitations, and sacrificing your personal life for the mantra of the regimen. Plus this kid was undefeated..something like 15 fights in the pros... and a fairly extensive am career.. Your telling me he fought all those fights and never displayed any courage?

So is it your position that Dirrell did not fight at all in the Froch fight? He just ran the whole time? Didn't put any leather on Froch's face, or counter him in a pretty big way late in the fight?

I can see the viewpoint that Froch seemed to want the fight more. But, to say Dirrell didn't fight at all and didn't show some courage and heart in the final rounds is just..well, not smart.

[FeFist]

Dirrell refused to fight so Froch's frustration showed. What do you expect, the guy came for a fight, that's what he's paid to do and what he trained for hours to do only to be stuck in a ring chasing a guy who wants to do laps of a track instead of engaging

You cut the ring off. Here's a concept you need to understand, not every fighter will fight your fight and they don't have to. If fighter feels incensed by that they're an idiot.

[masta]

The only thing Dirrell stole was Froch's loss.

[joelab75]

if those believed that Froch win the fight why dont you watch it again and see who landed more punches, more jabs, more power punches? if a boxer landed more punches, more jabs, more power punches i think the boxer deserved to win. but a deserving boxer doesnt always win.