Canelo is not an all time great fighter

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  • djtmal
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    #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    The level is
    Teddy Atlas says Canelo isn't

    I take his word over yours

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    • Coverdale
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      #12
      Originally posted by djtmal

      Teddy Atlas says Canelo isn't

      I take his word over yours
      Teddy Atlas has said all types of nonsense about Pacquiao, do you believe that too? The guy loves the sound of his own voice.

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      • djtmal
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        #13
        Originally posted by Coverdale

        Teddy Atlas has said all types of nonsense
        About Canelo he is speaking the truth

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        • Coverdale
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          #14
          Originally posted by djtmal

          About Canelo he is speaking the truth
          I.e. when he reinforces your confirmation bias.

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #15
            Originally posted by djtmal
            Hof yes

            P4p all he is so low it's not worth talking about
            - - We already knew U was never worth talking about nothing that was worth talking about.

            U minder know U loose...

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            • Nash out
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              #16
              Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

              Some resumes are inflated
              Others are mocked
              A scant few are given the credit they deserve

              Marciano = Garbage resume
              Gatti = GTFOH
              GGG = Pure garbage ("That run, doe !")
              Ali = Only a hater can say he doesn't have the best HW resume of all time
              Guys like DLH, Mosley, Holy, K2 = Legit AF
              Old Timey Guys = Great compilers. So many bartenders, bouncers and cabdrivers pretending to be boxers.
              Mike Tyson = Garbage

              So called fight fans pick and choose which resumes are quality.
              Does it pain a MFer to put their biases aside and deal with ACTUAL FACTS ?!?!?

              Is Guy A's resume better than Guys B-???

              "I'm a fan of this guy so no resume is better than his !!!"
              FOH

              Matching future HOFers with other future HOFers, in their primes, is not an everyday occurrence.
              In order to be an ATG, one must have the opportunity to face the best, and NOT just the best "at the moment"

              "He was "ranked" "
              Big ****ing Deal
              Let's never forget Bruce Seldon was once a champ and that Mario Cherrios IS "a" "champ"
              A ranked fighter OR champ has to be legit.

              Nelo's resume is a lot better than some unnamed guys who is are fan favorites
              Mr. Nelo was/kinda still is a tremendous fighter. back to his Green Nelo days who lost only once, a hard to call and close loss to Mayweather, then to prime Nelo who beat England's finest and Golovkin 2 wins and a draw. He went up about 10 weight divisions to fight Bivol, and again, lost a disputed decision 7-5 on all cards. His latest loss to Crawford, again, could have went either way. No man went down, not much happened, but Canelo's head movement is completely shot. He's a bit of a sitting duck defensively now and needs to retire before he starts losing to much lesser fights. He's completed Boxing. He invented the phrase "Viva la Mexico", he possibly did enough to beat Mayweather on subtle effective work, and was once Eddie Hearn's best friend. All of this = HOF and ATG. Nash out - His Majesty

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              • djtmal
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                #17
                Originally posted by Coverdale

                I.e. when he reinforces your confirmation bias.
                It's just the truth

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                • YOU WILL LOSE
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                  #18
                  what another hater emerges

                  canelo is true workhorse all time, year in year out,closing in on 100 fights coming soon!

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                  • TheProudLunatic
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Teddy Atlas says Canelo isn't

                    I take his word over yours
                    Hey Google

                    Does Teddy Atlas think Pac took roids ?

                    "Teddy Atlas has never directly stated that Manny Pacquiao took steroids, but he has repeatedly implied it by making comments that suggest past use of performance enhancers."

                    Key points regarding Atlas's stance:
                    • Implication, not accusation: Atlas typically frames his opinions as questions for the public to answer, stopping short of a direct accusation to avoid potential defamation lawsuits, which the Mayweather camp faced and settled with Pacquiao over similar claims.
                    • Physical changes: He pointed out that the "Manny" of later years was not as physically large or as powerful a puncher as the one from his prime years (pre-2009 knockout streak), and urged others to "figure out why".
                    • Drug testing debates: During negotiations for a potential fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. around 2010, Pacquiao's initial reluctance to agree to Olympic-style random blood testing was a major talking point. Atlas commented that the "common man" would naturally wonder why a clean fighter would walk away from a large sum of money just to avoid a simple test, further fueling speculation.
                    • General doping views: Atlas is known for his strong anti-doping stance in boxing, frequently vocalizing his belief that many fighters use performance-enhancing drugs without getting caught.
                    ​In summary, Atlas has consistently used suggestive language and rhetorical questions to imply that Pacquiao's career trajectory and physical changes were su****ious and potentially linked to performance-enhancing substances, without ever definitively claiming he had proof.

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                    • JOITATS
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                      #20
                      Canelo was certainly not a top 10 P4P in his most recent fight.
                      Although, he has is one of the most accomplished of our era, but i question if he really would have been if GGG got the fair dec.

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