40 Year Old Shot Deontay Knocking Out Usyk

[TheProudLunatic]

It feels worse than Berto/Mayweather due to the fact that I have much higher expectations for Usyk. I wouldn't pick Wilder vs. Kabayel/Wardley or even 20 year old Itauma.

Nothing worse than Team Pac finding a part time school teacher as an opponent
CPGW

[TheProudLunatic]

Helenius dove. Usyk has had a lot of tough fights lately Fury 2, AJ 2, Dubois 2, he's long overdue for a patsy like Wilder. Look at all the patsies Ali fed on.

You're among the least credible voices in NSB

Usyk breezed through AJ
Had a very brief situation with DDD
This HW era is filled with patsies, I'll give you that.

As for your dim witted take on Ali....
What HW in the history of the sport has a deeper, more successful resume ?
Please say Fury
I haven't had a decent laugh yet

[Bennyleonard99]

I can't agree that he dove. The dude ate a stiff right to the face using his own momentum to walk into it. His eyes were literally staring up at the ceiling for 30 seconds.

Dives can take the form of intentionally eating a punch also. Like Stiverne did with Wilder. Like Seldon was supposed to do with Mike

[Bennyleonard99]

You're among the least credible voices in NSB

Usyk breezed through AJ
Had a very brief situation with DDD
This HW era is filled with patsies, I'll give you that.

As for your dim witted take on Ali....
What HW in the history of the sport has a deeper, more successful resume ?
Please say Fury
I haven't had a decent laugh yet

All the dominant hwt champions had awesome resumes. Ali's gets special attention and treatment because of nostaglia and because his personality and aura made Frazier, Norton, Foreman, etc all look greater than they really were, If you take Ali out of that era, that era was boring. Norton, Joe, George all had boring introvert personalities. Ali's charisma and electricity made that era looks much more exciting than it was. And five decades of media worship of Ali also built up Ali into a God of sorts. Ali was great, the greatest, don't get me wrong. He was the goat until his time but I believe Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschkos and now Usyk are greater than Ali. But if Ali was 20 years old today and ranked in the top ten, I believe Ali would still become the goat with modern training, diet, discipline, etc.

[GhostofDempsey]

Usyk will be 39 next month, so not quite a prime version of himself either. It would not be a good look for Usyk to lose to Wilder regardless. Wilder on the other hand ducked Chisora on more than one occasion. His confidence is shaky.

[SouthpawRight]

Usyk will be 39 next month, so not quite a prime version of himself either. It would not be a good look for Usyk to lose to Wilder regardless. Wilder on the other hand ducked Chisora on more than one occasion. His confidence is shaky.

I don't think he's retiring after this fight. IMO he has about 2-3 more good fights in him. Remember that heavyweights battery last longer than the smaller guys.

he plans to stop after 40

Biblical Moses must be the final fight

time for your british cousins to reclaim their manhood and stop simping for backwards ukraine

[kiaba360]

why higher expectations for Usyk?

Floyd was the vastly superior boxer, top 10 all time, and has a strong case for being the most skilled boxer in history

Biblical Moses would mop Deontay. I don’t want to see him get hurt he gave us good matches

Usyk fighting Wilder is the sort of cynical behavior that I would associate with "Money" Mayweather. I'd prefer for Usyk to retire if he's gonna start playing A-Side politics. Honorably defend your throne by fighting the likes of Kabayel and Wardley, or just ride off into the sunset.

Nothing worse than Team Pac finding a part time school teacher as an opponent
CPGW

iirc Jeff Horn was the teacher? what's CPGW?

[SouthpawRight]

Usyk fighting Wilder is the sort of cynical behavior that I would associate with "Money" Mayweather. I'd prefer for Usyk to retire if he's gonna start playing A-Side politics. Honorably defend your throne by fighting the likes of Kabayel and Wardley, or just ride off into the sunset.



iirc Jeff Horn was the teacher? what's CPGW?

maybe Deontay is his planned retirement opp

me as a box fan you're entitled to a cherry for the last one

yes Jeff was a schoolteacher and CPGW = Cherrypick Gone Wrong

[TheProudLunatic]

All the dominant hwt champions had awesome resumes. Ali's gets special attention and treatment because of nostaglia

Like I said, least credible

[TheProudLunatic]

iirc Jeff Horn was the teacher? what's CPGW?

Evidently, a better teacher than he was a boxer
CPGW = Cherry Pick Gone Wrong