Jealousy is the root of all evil

[HisExcellency]

lol

Americans especially AmeriBlacks are outspoken and believe in calling it how it is

no manny who got jacked in the 1st Timmeh fight and came out WE MUS RESPEK JUDGE DACISION

more Juan letting the world know that he was jacked in the trilogy then fixing it with an overhand that collided with manny's lunging face

manny's opp selection from 2016 to 1H 2019 was suspect during this run of Timmeh3-Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-AdrienLOL. manny needed a long time to recover from the ptsd that Floyd inflicted upon him with those sniper rights

Terence Crawford
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I tried to fight @MannyPacquiao way back in 2015 and the hide him from me so I didn’t get too big to soon because they wanted to keep milking him because he was they cash cow.
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https://x.com/terencecrawford/status/1996003565186297881

Lol Pacquiao is the ONLY 8 division champion & 4 decade champion in boxing history. He also started off his career in a much lower weight class (Junior Flyweight) and arguably BEAT Barrios despite pushing 50.

Crawford's career achievements are NOTHING in comparison whereas Pacquiao belongs right at the top with the likes of Ali, SRR, Greb, Armstrong, Duran etc.

[SouthpawRight]

Lol Pacquiao is the ONLY 8 division champion & 4 decade champion in boxing history. He also started off his career in a much lower weight class (Junior Flyweight) and arguably BEAT Barrios despite pushing 50.

Crawford's career achievements are NOTHING in comparison whereas Pacquiao belongs right at the top with the likes of Ali, SRR, Greb, Armstrong, Duran etc.

That's cute

but I was responding to YOUR inquiry about why TBud is some type of way about it

We can only speculate how much influence manny had in him avoiding TBud

sweet tea sipping brits amuse

Those guys you mentioned are top 10 all time

manny slightly below them

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard
6. Willie
7. Muhammad
8. Roberto
9. Sugar Leonard
10. Floyd
11. Joe
12. Benny
13. Pernell
14. manny
15. Jimmy
16. Archie
17. Mickey
18. Carlos
19. Marvin
20. Barney
21. Tony
22. Julio Cesar

[DeeMoney]

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I am from the UK where we do have overtly egotistical sportspeople, but I would say they're relatively unusual at the elite end. Naseem Hamed, Tyson Fury and even Carl Froch to a degree standout.

You're right that it's not necessarily new, with Ali being an obvious example of an overtly egotistical athlete. Had social media been around in his day, would he have made a long and rambling video complaining about being stripped by the WBA? It's interesting to consider.

To return to my original point, I do think this persona is more common among Americans. This demand to be recognised as great and complaining about not getting enough recognition is a theme that comes up fairly often. The poster Willie Pep 229 gave some interesting insight into why that might be, saying the US is a "society that places more emphasis on the individual than the community". I would be interested to know what you thought about that.

Existentially, perhaps this win hasn't given Crawford what he thought it would. We see this in all areas of society, PhD students often feel depressed rather than elated after finishing their thesis. Crawford achieved something spectacular, but the world quickly moves on. He should focus on being happy with himself.

I've heard the argument that "the US is a society that places more emphasis on the individual than the community" before. It may carry some validity in this case, but for the most part I think it has become a bit of a platitude in a sense, harkening back to a bygone century of western expansion or placing too much emphasis on overall economic principles. Then again, I am fairly arrogant and individualistic myself (ironically it usually manifests in ways that people find to be marks of humility).

I definitely agree with your last paragraph, he reached the mountain top only to find it wasn't all he hoped for. But thats why I think its something different than arrogance; if he were truly arrogant (at least how I view it) the views of everyone else wouldn't matter to him, he'd be too arrogant to care. Its more how you stated now, the demand to be recognized. I'm gonna chew on that some more, because its something I have been looking into as a whole a lot recently, and see what I come up with. Would love to hear more about your thoughts on it though, especially from another perspective. Do you think that boxing being an individual sport as opposed to a team endeavor plays a part in it?

[Memebox]

TBud beat greater Mexican than any on manny's record

manny got CLAPPED by a 39 year old JUAN even at a weight that favored manny

ANY manny gets mopped by a cerebral right hand counterpunching rangy boxer with very good defense

Did you forget? Pacquiao is the only 8-division world champion in history. Pacquiao made Floyd look like a runner and a hugger for the entire 12 rounds. Crawford won’t even fight Thurman — the same Thurman that Pacquiao beat at 40 years old. Even Bob Arum admitted he blocked the Crawford vs. Pacquiao fight because he believed Manny would nail Crawford.

Manny Pacquiao is better than both Floyd and Crawford. The only debate left is which one of them ranks after Pacquiao.

[djtmal]

TBud beat greater Mexican e

No answer the question direct

What prime all time great did Crawford beat

Let me guess Errol Spence

[djtmal]

manny got CLAPPED by a 39 year old JUAN even at a weight that favored manny

Lol

When you fight your arch rival 4x, somebody is bound to get ko'd

[hugh grant]

Bud your win over Nel o was great as you took risk. But we all know you trained many years for nelo, whilst you wasn't on nelos radar. Bud used to get criticised for not doing much before he fought spence, but bud didn't care as he knew he would call Nel o out once he was ready too. So bud was calculated.
fight benevidez

[SouthpawRight]

Lol

When you fight your arch rival 4x, somebody is bound to get ko'd

Did you forget? Pacquiao is the only 8-division world champion in history. Pacquiao made Floyd look like a runner and a hugger for the entire 12 rounds. Crawford won’t even fight Thurman — the same Thurman that Pacquiao beat at 40 years old. Even Bob Arum admitted he blocked the Crawford vs. Pacquiao fight because he believed Manny would nail Crawford.

Manny Pacquiao is better than both Floyd and Crawford. The only debate left is which one of them ranks after Pacquiao.

yet manny hung his head in submission after Floyd gave manny the coldest boxing lesson

TBE PBFloyd $ Mayweather, "manny pacquiao, you will never be on my level!"

[Coverdale]

I've heard the argument that "the US is a society that places more emphasis on the individual than the community" before. It may carry some validity in this case, but for the most part I think it has become a bit of a platitude in a sense, harkening back to a bygone century of western expansion or placing too much emphasis on overall economic principles. Then again, I am fairly arrogant and individualistic myself (ironically it usually manifests in ways that people find to be marks of humility).

I definitely agree with your last paragraph, he reached the mountain top only to find it wasn't all he hoped for. But thats why I think its something different than arrogance; if he were truly arrogant (at least how I view it) the views of everyone else wouldn't matter to him, he'd be too arrogant to care. Its more how you stated now, the demand to be recognized. I'm gonna chew on that some more, because its something I have been looking into as a whole a lot recently, and see what I come up with. Would love to hear more about your thoughts on it though, especially from another perspective. Do you think that boxing being an individual sport as opposed to a team endeavor plays a part in it?

I definitely think that's a factor, but it does seem to be quite particular to boxing. You didn't for example see Roger Federer yelling about how he is the greatest tennis player in the world in interviews even when he obviously was. Factors worth considering are the types of character drawn into prize fighting: it's not something most men can do and requires a high level of competitiveness and selfishness. Also the lack of structure in boxing lends itself to self-promotion. Federer didn't have to make a lot of noise to get to the Wimbledon final, he just had to play well enough. Whereas boxers can be denied an opportunity at the world championship for years even when they obviously deserve it.

The 'lack of recognition' narrative is an interesting one. I haven't actually heard Floyd Mayweather speak for a long time, but he continued to imply he wasn't sufficiently recognised after he retired. He interrupted a post-fight interview with Curmel Moton once when a journalist implied he was being mentored by 'one of' the greatest boxers of all time rather than 'the' greatest. It would be interesting to ask these guys what a sufficient amount of recognition would look like in practice.

[Coverdale]

Lol

When you fight your arch rival 4x, somebody is bound to get ko'd

yet manny hung his head in submission after Floyd gave manny the coldest boxing lesson

TBE PBFloyd $ Mayweather, "manny pacquiao, you will never be on my level!"

Both of you please keep your immature and repetitive argument to one of the several threads you already have going on this subject. I know it's about attention, but this isn't the way to get it. Thank you.